Late to the party but what a fun read. Keep it up Guy. Damn the naysayers. Just one question.
Ordering a steak at Barbacoa? Kind of gringo don't you think?
Those look like 'Bisquick' pancakes...Ugggggghhhh!
I love their fish tacos! I have tried to make them at home... But I can't get that sauce right.... Anyone know how to make it?
Anything Mike Owen does is always delicious not to mention a blast!
Thanks for the future class Mr. Owen, I can't wait.
Here we are. Pushing year one. Still a packed house. All of you Coa haters are locals. Your idea of great steak is Texas Roadhouse or Sizzler. Your idea of seafood is Red Lobster. A fancy dinner is done in wranglers, with a Cabellas hat and something camouflaged. This place is inexpensive compared to big city fare. A 12oz filet for $36? It would be $60 in Seattle. Bottle of Cabernet for $45 that retails for $35? The same bottle is at Chandlers for $88. Food is never just about the food. Their website states that they want to stimulate your senses. That's taste, visual, audible, everything. I've traveled to some of the best resteraunts in the world, and Barbacoa is a compete package. I may have had better of each individual senses, but never a better overall presentation, value, flavor and experience. Keep up the excellent work, and pushing the envelope.
Guy, not impressed with your review. Not sure your living on the same planet. I would reccommend Barbacoa to anyone. And I don't like lamb goat cheese or avacados and there Enchilada Cordoro was absolutely fabulous. I give them a 10 out of 10!!!!!!! If you havent been you need to go!!!!!!
Fabulous food and environment!!!!!!! As for the steak on a rock, I have been to Ruth's Chris and this blows it away!!!!!
You painted a vivid picture of Barbacoa. That's why I read your reviews.
Like many in Boise, my husband and I waited with great expectations for the rebuilding and re-opening of Barbacoa. As I walked to the entry for our first return visit I truly liked the oversized pots of bamboo and other plants and the tiki-torch feel of the flames. The redesigned foyer and "wine tunnel" to the main dining room were also impressive. We were meeting friends and I was pleased that were seated fairly promptly and to a comfortable booth. But the awe ended there; it was so loud we could not hear one another well, our waiter was nice but not trained well, service and food delivery was slow, menu items were impressively presented but mediocre in flavor, and while we have no problem paying for great food,...the food was not great. Ease up on the salt shakers, guys!
But we really loved the original Barbacoa and didn't want to give up our hopes for fine dining in only one visit. Three weeks later we decided to return alone and give it another shot. Bad call. This visit was less enjoyable than the first time! Honestly, we want this place to succeed because we love good food. I am not sure when we'll try again; maybe the place is still working out some personnel bugs or waiting for all this feedback to make adjustments. C'mon Barbacoa, this town has been fairly supportive of your ostentatious presentations and claims to be the Best of Boise. Live up to your reputation.
I don't even think it dawned on anybody writing negativity about Barbacoa or Mr. Hand himself that he and they missed the mark. I think it's classic that one of the most neat places to go and have a great meal gets crap and then you have rave reviews over other places that are so boring and have alright food are exalted to Republican run Idaho. Not to mention that those of us patrons that actually appreciate there being a place to go besides downtown and to (not being rude) Chandlers or Angels (once again, I am not being rude because I like them and their food), are happy campers because i love looking out at Table Rock and the ducks on the water and having some culture that gets me and my partner in a really happy mood. So, all I am saying is that everyone is great that I mentioned but I like Barbacoa a lot and think it is unfortunate that some people are so phobic of something that pops their bubble a little bit . I dig Barbacoa and I really like the waitress Sally that waited on us. She was really cool and so nice and did an awesome job. I think I tipped her really well (according to me I guess), because she was so great on Valentine's Day.... That was the most special Valentine's dinner I ever had and the previous waiter I had, who's (sorry!) name I can't remember that i had before was great too. I loved our bus boy. We thought he was simply charming and sweet and mild mannered but still made us smile. I am into what you guys over at Barbacoa are doing. Way into it. I will still go to Angels and Chandlers but i wanted to say how I felt. Thanks.
go malia53! i agree with everything you say! Barbacoa is not at all a night club, i had a brief talk with the owner a few weeks ago and he said that he is trying to get rid of the younger crown and that is the reason fo rwhy he doesnt have a late night happy hour, he said china blue can have all those people. Barbacoa is a great place to go to enjoy an amazing dinner! i have been there well over 20 times and have never been dissapointed. good job barbacoa!
Wild West... you are a freaking dumb ass. They are only only a partial nightclub that only happens on the weekends after 10 and before that, they are a very well run RESTAURANT! You sound like Guy hand. Maybe you are. This is not someone who missed the mark and set themselves up for failure...They are restaurant owners who have artistic background to work with and novody who runs just a nightclub has such an efficiently run kitchen and appetizer bar. Go eat some fodder. seriously. They have more than a canvas....they have the masterpiece and the menu is wonderful. Are you racist, jealous, envious, maybe frumpy, and/or potentially not happy with yourself or your life Wild West? Because if you knew how to enjoy yourself and some good food and go into a world other than your own backyard, you's not only realize you are experiencing fine dining but also a really fun place to be and a wonderful display of art that intrigues and opens ones eye to a vision that is strictly Barbacoa's. They are not trying to be Lock Stock and Barrel. And they probably would never talk shit about them either. They are a whole experience and that experience includes great food. They are not a nightclub. They offer that as a weekend experience....maybe for the people who are sick of the downtown college kids who vomit all over Main street and have no sense of anything else. Geez.....what is your trip?
Look the reviewer is what he is...... a paid opinion writer.....he is not a journalist.....his skills in food knowledge are limited and anyone from this area who has ever read his opinions before clearly understands his limited skills and knowledge........
Uh yeah......Barbacoa........I imagine ownership is extremely nervous after overspending on the development of what he considers an upscale restaurant, which is merely a nightclub...........
The reality is setting in and now they need to make the investment payout..........they are locked in by design and operation to a limited demographic and a very tough location.....
Ask yourself why? are the Barbacoa's business interests seriously upset by a small paper opinion writer form the Boise Weekly.....do they realize they missed the mark?
Barabaco may have larger concerns on the horizon as the new smell wears off........ proving to there intended demographic they are not a night club, but a upscale quality restaurant....what do they want to be when they grow up... not to mention the high expectations they willful sought..... are not represented in the service or food........ its clear they had the access to lots of cash to over design a space.......but it seems that they forgot that setting the stage is only a small part of the fine dining or upscale food experience.....If they can find that......they can be great other wise all it's good for is a nightclub not a food experience.
Good luck Barbacoa...Boise need's good restaurants... you have the canvas now you need the rest......stop blaming others opinions ....its not them.. its you..!
I like what Robert posted. I thought it was totally fine. Why not? Crybaby? Ha! Robert is no crybaby people. This man is a totally friendly and very confident person about his restaurant. I met him once while dining there and he took time out to say hello, thanked us, ask us how our food was honestly,even asking if we would change anything actually. I don't know the guy on a chum level, but this man is not a crybaby. He's a very cool guy. I really liked him and really liked the courtesy he gave to us as we were interested in hearing about his family also. He had his son with him there one evening, I think he may have been eating there with him, and I was impressed by what nice fathere he seemed to be. I mean, who knows really, but there is nothing about Robert Castoro if you ever meet thisman that I would consider a crybaby. Quite the opposite in fact. This reviewer is a crybaby if you ask me. If you knew the steak was going to be covered in a flaming cognac sauce, then why did you order it if that's one of your premiere complaints. So funny. Robert is laughing at you probably because he has a great sense of humor, because that is what I took from the ad he posted. That, and a some humble truth about him and his family. I have followed this a bit for fun and think it's hysterical. Go Robert... freedom of speech like you said. Guy is a very biased reviewer. I liked your ad. I'm glad you guys are back.
This review is so pathetic and underhanded, it makes me ill. I have friends and family who work there, I have eaten the food non-biased and absolutely loved everything I have had. That is a true statement. All the staff are very attentive and courteous and do their very best to provide patrons with a dining experience they can enjoy while being surrounded in beauty. Who wouldn't want to go to a beautifully and artistically stellar restaurant right on Parkcenter water front and enjoy a great meal with excellent service, great food, and somewhere that you can really feel that the owners put in a lot of energy to their life's vision together. For fine dining, this is as good as it gets here in this food genre. I'm not even saying this because I know a couple wait staff...I am straight up calling a big BS on this completely ridiculous and frankly off base "review". (hardly a review, since you never mentioned how wonderful and expeditious the wait staff and back up are, nor did you sample anything else it seems and made a really pathetic ass of yourself. If you think it's overpriced, tell me then why I went and had a great anniversary with my wife and had appetizers and entrees and even a glass of wine and still felt totally fine with the bill. I had a great experience on my anniversary. We were treated so kindly and met with respect and dignity and a well knowledged staff. Boise weekly is probably just peeved that Barbacoa doesn"t advertise with you, and hence the restaurants that do, get the reviews they want, maybe not even deserve. Totally an underhanded way of trying to turn people away from one of the greatest restaurants to ever happen to Boise. It's not that I don't eat other places. I totally do. And i like their food too. But this "review" is clearly written by an undereducated, paid and gag-ordered employee of Boise Weekly who has zero clue what fine art is. All the paintings in their, from my understanding were painted by Martine, co-owner and they are amazing and detailed and are not "kitschy" on any level. None of the art is. Do you even know what "kitchy" means?... (FYI-definition of Kitsch-Kitsch is a form of art that is considered an inferior, tasteless copy of an extant style of art or a worthless imitation of art of recognized value or cheap mass-produced objects that are unoriginal. Kitsch also refers to the types of art that are aesthetically deficient.).... This defintion does not even come anywhere near describing the totally original pieces of hand made and local art, paintings, furniture or otherwise. This is absolutely so stupid that I am tempted to walk into Boise weekly and pay to have you review my cooking at home, since if I pay you, you'll probably be obliged to give me a great review. Get a clue "Guy Hand" and get some class Boisee Weekly, you cheap lowlifes. You are just sleaze. Cheers to Barbacoa for bringing an upscale and totally original and fantastically designed restaurant, and thank you for serving us some darn good food and wine too. Thanks also to the wonderful staff that work very hard to accomodate you to the best of their ability and to the chef for having some very awesome skills in the kitchen. Barbacoa is great. I am not affiliated with them, do not even know the owners, and I mean it when I say, you guys are wonderful.Keep up the great work!
yeah like i said, did you know that barbacoa is sold out for the next 2 weeks? did you know that they have been sold out everyday since they have opened? didnt think so so now get out of your parents basement, get a job, and maybe one day if you wish upon a star, you will be able to go to that "highpriced" restaurant.... wooowww did you also know bootycall that they have a family? so i am so happy that you want their restaurant to burn into flames...its time you go back to your corner.
Ummm, people are missing the fact that Guy's review was supposed to be full of lots of words without much context. That was the point; just like the restaurant. 2 for 1 happy hour is great, but even that did not get me wanting anything from the menu. Perhaps the menu would not have seemed so boring had I not been surrounded by obnoxious, over the top art. The smell of cowhide as I walked through the front door where it is wall papered in the lobby was just kind of gross, even for a meat lover like myself. I predict another fire in the future, then it's time to go back to Cali. with the insurance money.
Anyone who doesn't want to spend over 30 dollars for a piece of meat is a hillbilly? You convinced me. I will no longer avoid Barbacoa for the high prices. I will avoid it because I don't like being surrounded by snobs while I eat.
To the person above, you have had way too much time on the Internet. Any social values you had are now gone; devolved into a muddy paste to which you spewed forth above. That being said, they are overpriced. $15 for Patron is absurd, no matter where you go unless it's someplace like New York. I like Barbacoa, they will be a staple in this community for a while, but they are overpriced no matter how you spin it.
As for the ad, in 20 years in this industry, I have never seen anything like it. It had provided much amusement and "water cooler" talk. Do I think it was the right way to handle it? Probably not, but it worked and people are talkin about them. The loyal will become even more loyal and the haters have more fuel for the fire. Either way they're the talk of the town and whatever the ad cost, it's paid for itself already.
everyone that says barbacoa is over priced, its because you are hill billies in Idaho, let me guess you work at mcdonals and went to high school droppe out and now yoou have 2 kids who do drugs? hhmm yeah I LOVE BARBACOA and i thought the ad was amazziinnnggg!!!!! it was funny and im glad they out that in there...for the boise weekly guy im sorry but you might want a new job, maybe you could become a food critic in lets say buel idaho? i tink thats where you belong... GO BARBACOA!!!!
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