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Re: “What Constitutes a 'Clean, Sober and Safe' House in Idaho?

I find it funny that everyone is touting about the profiteering side but nobody can explain it. I believe in following the money.

Copious and $20 are you not answering because you yourselves don't understand.

Posted by Milton on 04/28/2017 at 4:00 PM

Re: “What Constitutes a 'Clean, Sober and Safe' House in Idaho?

To $20 Minimum,

I liked your response attacking one another is not the answer. I think everyone has valid points. With Copious Disrespect I felt stereotyped. I believe he even has valid concerns. I was on the side of a man who lived in these houses and it really helped.

I also don't understand the profiting side. What I went through I was amazed how much control Ascent had over my care. For those who don't know Ascent is the therapy part of the program. They seem to control everything. I have lost my housing and just lost my medications.

Can anyone explain if or how this all works together. I don't understand the profiting side?

I think this really deserves a conversation. I also apologize if I offended anyone in my posts. I have been living in my car and was just a little emotional. I would like to understand Copious & 20 dollar side a little more?

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Posted by Milton on 04/27/2017 at 1:10 PM

Re: “Fightin' Words

In Boise you have even more Christian Republican Nazis and white supremacists so it's not surprising that Americans don't rise up and kick them in their Nazi faces like they do in normal cities. No offense.

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Posted by AngryNotSoOldHippy on 04/27/2017 at 9:14 AM

Re: “What Constitutes a 'Clean, Sober and Safe' House in Idaho?

Milt, You also overlooked several of my accurate points about how the scumbag profiteers are crapping on good neighborhoods with these houses. Probably because you agree with my description. We need to change the laws to prevent this random chance possibility of having one of these dropped on a valuable quality neighborhood. It makes owning a home risky. The math on the smokes is about right. I have no idea how they get insurance for these houses -- insurance company probably not told the truth.

I'm a she, drive a commercial truck and Uber, I voted for Obama twice. Regret it both times because of stupid crap like this he did. I know all about these houses and who lives in them and who profits. It's wrong.

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Posted by $20 minimum on 04/26/2017 at 7:01 PM

Re: “Fightin' Words

"antifa" a Terrorist organization promoting riots every where they go, trying to shut down free speech and promoting Communism...

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Posted by Jon Holems on 04/26/2017 at 8:57 AM

Re: “Ted Challenger on His Past, the China Blue Stabbing and Tighter Security

Obviously feared getting sued or sanctioned during the ktvb clip. But then again the editor probably removed parts. Something very wrong will people who'd want to spend $10 on something can be had nearby for $1.

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Posted by ? on 04/26/2017 at 8:33 AM

Re: “Fightin' Words

I tried but could not find the point. Retelling of recent events found elsewhere and read about weeks ago is all I could find.

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Posted by ? on 04/26/2017 at 8:30 AM

Re: “What Constitutes a 'Clean, Sober and Safe' House in Idaho?

Continuation and response to the brilliant Copious Disrespect

Your comment about smoking $200 dollars in cigarettes a week. Wow that a lot of cigarettes. That's like $800 /month $9600 / Annually. You seem like a brilliant man so I won't question where you got your data. I am sure it was from a non biased sample group and an accredited academic institution. With a peer review evaluation on your statistics of $200 week. If the normal distribution was $200 week on cigarettes can you enlighten me with the standard deviation.

You dump them in good neighborhoods for the residents to babysit. Huh the whole time I was at the house I never had a resident babysit me. Can you explain how this works do the residents volunteer are they paid hourly. When I was growing up I always had a huge crush on my babysitter. If the community offers this service can I request a cute lady in her 30s. Huh this whole time I never new the community offered this amazing service.

You seem so well informed and so educated how can I help you on this courageous campaign you so desire.. Please bring more issues to my attention

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Posted by Milton on 04/25/2017 at 4:55 AM

Re: “What Constitutes a 'Clean, Sober and Safe' House in Idaho?

This message is for copious disrespect.
Read his comment above before reading this.

The SHIP housing program I stayed at was a great experience.

Your excessive noise and late night activity comment. At our house a strict 9 pm cerfew is enforced.

Your comment about delapitated cars. Most of them are so down and out they don't own cars. They rely heavily on the bus system.

Your comment about drinking and drugging all the time. At our SHIP house we took sobriety very seriously. We held each other to great standards.

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Posted by Milton on 04/25/2017 at 4:50 AM

Re: “What Constitutes a 'Clean, Sober and Safe' House in Idaho?

I think this article hit some great points. Not everyone is homeless for the same reason. These environments face so many different situations. Some are transitioning from the criminal system. Some face mental illness. Some are very young and have no support system. Some are very old and have no support system. Whatever the case individuals automatically jump to the conclusion you're a criminal. When your in the system your treated like a criminal. I understand when you are duly convicted of a crime you lose many of your civil liberties.

If I could point at that many of these people are not criminals. I really admire what Brandt is doing. He is serving a niche in a community that needs hope. So many times addiction and recovery play of the vulnerabilities of families. Most of the time these houses offer management with little to no training in recovery. To be a certified drug and alcohol counselor in the state of Idaho does not even require a high school diploma.

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Posted by Milton on 04/25/2017 at 3:48 AM

Re: “What Constitutes a 'Clean, Sober and Safe' House in Idaho?

I can speak from experience. I was recently transferred from a behavioral health center involving problems with suicide. I have never had any legal problems what so ever. Every step of the way I was treated like a criminal. Part of BPA or the business psychological association "what I found interesting is they are a for profit model"

I was stuffed in these group therapy classes at Ascent and they made a huge deal if I missed any group therapy or Urine Analysis. I realized these were high profit margins for them. I tried to advocate how important individual Therapy was for me. They kept canceling my individual Therapy appointments 44% of my individual Therapy was cancelled. Me trying to advocate for myself ended up with them threatening my housing. They were very successful. I lost my housing and living in my car.

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Posted by Milton on 04/25/2017 at 3:21 AM

Re: “What Constitutes a 'Clean, Sober and Safe' House in Idaho?

When we declared a "War on Drugs", we quickly became the most incarcerated nation in the world. Who are these people? 67% of them have the diagnosis of Substance Use Disorder. In case you missed it, the Surgeon General recently released a report on how this disease is affecting our country and our communities:

The percentage of individuals in recovery who might need a "safe, clean and sober home" who have not had any criminal justice system involvement is quite small.... (Quite frankly, I find it odd that the operator of this house, who has had criminal justice system involvement himself, has taken such a stance.)

Here's a thought: What if we provided treatment and support? What if we didn't marginalize or discriminate against a person who has faced the demons of addiction and wants to heal and be a productive member of our community?

What if we quit thinking of these individuals as "them" and started realizing that they are US!???

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Posted by Monica Forbes on 04/24/2017 at 1:14 PM

Re: “Ted Challenger on His Past, the China Blue Stabbing and Tighter Security

Why do these guys go broke then reappear over and over. Who keeps giving them loans.

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Posted by Bob Gelddoff on 04/23/2017 at 12:06 AM

Re: “What Constitutes a 'Clean, Sober and Safe' House in Idaho?

Our governments need to put restrictions on where and how many people with a history of problems can live. These folks are the byproduct of a profiteering CJ system and a failed mental illness system.

What all these boohoo OPED articles fail to take into account is how these halfway houses totally screw up a neighborhood. It only takes one turd in the pool. Excessive noise, excessive dilapidated vehicles, late night activity, petty crime, and completely trashed rental houses. Why should we bother to keep up our home if these scumbag profiteers can drop a bunch of rowdy unsupervised probationers into the house next door without restriction? Even if these people are not drinking or drugging they smoke $200 a week in cigarettes. It creates an inescapable plume of stink engulfing a large area near the rental.

This imposition upon people who don't want our property values destroyed needs to become a campaign issue. There is a place and a need but you are intentionally crapping on the people paying the bills. You dump them in good neighborhoods for the residents to babysit. Disrespect for upstanding people and very bad judgment is at the core of the whole mess.

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Posted by Copious Disrespect on 04/19/2017 at 10:16 AM

Re: “Why Doesn't Donald Trump's 'American Greatness' Include Bert and Ernie?

Sesame Street is a multi billion dollar enterprise and does not need corporate welfare from the Federal Government anymore. End of story.

Posted by John Hargraves on 04/10/2017 at 3:28 PM

Re: “Why Doesn't Donald Trump's 'American Greatness' Include Bert and Ernie?

Sesame Street sold itself to HBO in August of 2015.…

The "Bert and Ernie" thing is cute, but the whole neighborhood got off welfare a year and a half ago, so "Sesame Street" isn't getting cut.

BW, did you check this at all?

Posted by Chris G. on 04/08/2017 at 1:00 PM

Re: “Why Doesn't Donald Trump's 'American Greatness' Include Bert and Ernie?

Make America Great Again by Eliminating 'Justice for All'. How does that work??

Posted by Mick G on 04/05/2017 at 10:25 PM


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