I have completed two of the community television courses offered through Boise State there. I am currently enrolled in a third semester too. This station will be missed. I had some good times there. Friday Night Live, Friday Night Stories, Halloween Specials, and our infamous 24 hour shows where we only make it to 12 hours of Live tv before we quit. Good times were surely had.
Odd, when the world is turning toward TV above film that we cut our small budget local program. We should fund this with our high school education and college education budgets to teach and create tv shows.
I've never understood how a spire can be included in calculations of a building's height. Then again, I've never known the words "understand" and "architect" to fit together very well....
Every year the Boise Firefighters Union has a “Fill the Boot” fundraiser. On-duty firemen get paid (by taxpayers) to stand in the street, creating traffic jams, endangering their own lives and the lives of the public. Isn't what they're doing panhandling? On-the-job panhandling? While it's all in the name of a good cause (Muscular Dystrophy), please tell me how that’s different from “unsafe panhandling”? It isn't. Didn't the the City Council dress up this issue as "unsafe"??
Where were Eberle and Clegg? Why didn't they vote on this issue? David Eberle was quick to mention, in a BW article that sometimes you have to have a lawsuit or two to get things done!? Shame on Clegg, Eberle and Mayor Bieter for not being completely involved in such a mayor, expensive decision?
After reviewing statute books for the period 1776 to 1791 (for relevance to the definition of whether free speech included begging) and the period 1865 to 1880 (for relevance to whether the 14th Amendment might be an issue with respect to state laws concerning begging), the answer seems to be that freedom of speech was not understood in either period as including begging -- even begging that was not aggressive.
But history is pretty much irrelevant to the ACLU and the courts, anyway.
"The intent first amendment is about being able to speak freely. Period. Speak freely. Without limitations."
You mean, libel and slander suits are not valid? The remaining criminal libel laws are unconstitutional? What about treasonous speech? What about child p&rn? Someone needs to learn a bit about the First Amendment's history, and how the courts have understood it.
I agree that this statute is probably unconstitutional, and I am not surprised that Democrats like Bieter would vote for it, but your knowledge of the First Amendment is weak.
The intent of the 1st amendment is to prevent tyranny and political injustice by being able to criticize the government and society freely. It is difficult to draw any line around that, so the practical result is that we are able to 'speak freely', and indeed that is how it is written.
I am quite certain, however, that the intent of the 1st was not to protect people who want to pressure others into giving them money. It may (or may not) be the necessary practical effect of the 1st amendment, but it was not the intent. There is a difference.
I think the city council has struck a very good balance here. Basically, allow the person to ask, disallow the person to harass. I hold the ACLU to be incorrect on this, though I am generally a supporter. I will be happy that the courts will weigh in on the matter, as it will probably clarify things for everyone.
Regardless of the outcome, it should be understood that it does society harm to have homeless people spreading squalor through their activities. Whether that calls for more help for them, more laws from all of us, or both should be an ongoing civic discussion in our growing city. It certainly does no one any good whatsoever to be handing money directly to them. There are other ways to help them, and those ways should be utilized instead.
with the aclu, let's give our tax dollars via welfare to illegals............
The intent first amendment is about being able to speak freely.
Speak freely. Without limitations. What part of that doesnt make sense to you?
Just because you dont like whats being said, doesnt mean it should be restricted.
That's whats referred to as freedom, not conditional freedom...
Passing this ordinance does not seem very intelligent to me.
Waste of time created it, waste of time voting on it, waste of time (and money) defending it in court.
"The ACLU of Idaho officially launched a federal lawsuit this morning, arguing that the city's recently-passed anti-panhandling ordinance was in violation of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution."
Such an abuse of the system.
The intent first amendment is about being able to speak freely for or against the government and not about saying whatever you want where you want. Panhandling is not speaking out against the government but can end up interfering with businesses and people's ability to freely move about and feeling safe.
Anyone living in Boise should be disgusted that Mayor Bieter and the City council members have not used the monies from property taxes to make our city safe? They have raised our taxes as we have watched out property values drop and now show a CHILD while asking us to say yes for his safety? Mark my word our taxes will rise again this year! With or with out the bond. Most of the monies for the pro bond campaign are from tax exempt, unions and Meridian business's?!
$50 Million is a lot of money for Idahoans when our state was ranked 5th in the nation, in September for foreclosures? Voters need to question how this campaign came together the night Boise city council voted to put it on the ballet??? Remember the group gathered outside City hall with news media coverage! I would bet the campaign committee was working on this before Mayor Bieter had his city address on June 12. I wonder how much of our tax dollars went to pay for the pro bond campaign? We NEED to vote NO NO.
It's all about the money.
Prison for profit.
The City of Boise wants to add to the tax burden, right after the Boise School District just added to the tax burden.
They haven't made their case, they don't need this money.
No, No -- BEST for Boise.
If both bonds pass, WE -- voters -- will pay $18 million in order to borrow $32 million.
NO NO NO!!!
Grover Norquist had validity in his comment that Mayor Bieter and the city council members have not been doing their jobs. Some have been in office for 9 +years, it's not that they just got in office! Mayor Bieter and the council purchased land that was earmarked for housing development over by Lancaster Drive in the foothills. All the property owners in Boise would have benefited from the development of this land through jobs and an increased tax basis. Now it comes off the tax roll and the property owners have to pay for the development and or upkeep? Our leaders have also acquired land in Boise county? Stack rock up near Bogus! WHY ? It is hard to appreciate Mayor Bieter's sincerity when he supported the installation of the F35-A's at Gowen field. WHO IS THE MAYOR KEEPING BOISE GREAT FOR? Don't you love when safety comes to the top. Why would mayor Bieter and the council members have to have a BOND to keep the citizens of Boise out of harms way? SHAME ON THEM! Mayor Bieter and the council have ok'd the building of two firehouse recently, one on Cole Road and one in Harris Ranch. They are huge! The fire station that was vacated in Surprise Valley subdivision for Harris Ranch was about 25% the size of the new one and fires seemed to be extinguished? Would smaller facilities allowed for additional monies for maybe another one or two stations? Remember these were built during the recession/depression, drive by and take a look. Why does a fire engine end up when one calls an ambulance? Why do firefighters take fire engines to local stores to shop for food? Most backing monies for the bond campaign are from Meridian business's, unions, government agency's that receive funds from taxes and tax exempt business. All incumbents should be red faced to have this bond election on the same ballot. Didn't Mayor Bieter and the City council members give themselves a raise? Mayor Bieter, through Adam Park, said THE PAY INCREASE would get better qualified people in office. WELL PROPERTY OWNERS LET'S DO IT
VOTE NO! NO! TO YesYes 4 Boise. Last 2 points: Call Mayor Bieter's office and found out the increase for 2013 property taxes. The bond boosts $1 a month for the average Boise homeowner? Is that by weight?
This is legit.
Not to be too nerdy, but I spent a few days watching the building going up while I was missing home in Cambodia to see a few Idaho sunrises.
Thanks for having the courage to come forward Mr. Elliott. I hope your story will allow others to come forward with their own experiences.
and not all of us who fly signs use the money for drugs and alchahol i have no problem with fill the boot the biggest problem i have is they should volunteer for it and not get paid for their time because the money they are being paid by the city could go to other more important things
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