She's so awesome :o)
I knew Sammy Johns the old days, I just found out he died in January, because I was looking for a recording of Rag Doll. I wrote with Sammy for a while and then one day he asked me to leave because one of our buddies who was bumming money from him told him I was a witch.I really got a laugh out of that, but sadly Sammy believed him and I never saw him again. That same buddy stole 5 of my songs on "Rollin on Down the Road" a year or so later. I just looked Sammy up and found out about his demise, and was shocked sad. He was a good bird hunting while I knew him in North Georgia. I took him to all my favorite hunts. He sure must of been afraid of witches, I always thought that it was real Mark Twainy of him. He was in fact a real good person- at least what I knew of him. One day he sang rag doll for me while we were writing and talking bull - i suppose and it was the best song he ever sang; he did it perfect. Great song man I wish I could meet you some day. If you ever come to NC, drop by the Greystone Inn, I am there as scheduled. until Thanksgiving. Your Friend at heart,
Drinking whiskey in a bathroom stall, that's my girl!
Totally see SBS "going the distance"!!
TMP's participation in this show will include the TMP dancers reuniting with Preservation Hall Jazz Band for an onstage improvisation in the spirit of New Orleans and the jazz legacy that PHJB is known for, (the two ballets will not be a part of the show).
Trey McIntyre Project is supporting the film project with a kickstarter project that ends this Friday. Take a look and become a part of the project: www.treymcintyre.com/kickstarter
I am adding Crazy Horse entries to my music history blog, a history of my time playing music in Boise and Seattle from 1983 to 2003 so I found this article doing research. As you can see from some of these comments, The Crazy Horse was around much earlier than 1991, in the early '80s, and in fact I cut my teeth playing live music there in a punk band called State Of Confusion which morphed into the band Treepeople, who also played many shows there - both of these bands played a lot with Primordial Soup (hello P-Souper!). I am collecting any memories, photos, anything from The Horse (as we lovingly called it) from the '80s. See the blog here: www.amusichistory.blogspot.com
Thank you Ben, again, for a wonderful article about the journey this band is taking. We appreciate your time and candor as a writer.
I really want to start an all ages music venue in Charleston, WV and I'm wondering what you would tell me. I would really like a chance to talk. Is that possible?
No mention of Danny Barnes and his "Barnyard Electronics" work? Guess not everybody is "in the loop".
A small correction: Wes Malvini is no longer the booker for the Red Room. He left in July.--Ben Schultz
oops, guess you forgot to check out Go Listen Boise's local openers at AA5...although Lisa drives a mini-van so I guess Finn Riggins could still fit that crowd?
Maybe alcohol should be prohibited, sorta like smoking? I know thats gonna be considered a really stupid remark by most readers here but by far the worst part of an outdoor concert experience at a place like Outlaw Field is having to tolerate the drunks that the so-called security guards allow to crowd into whatever few inches of space they can force themselves into at the front of the stage so they can attempt to make themselves stars of the show. They annoy the hell out of people who are trying to enjoy the real show that they paid to see. I go to most concerts at Outlaw Field and it never fails. Eventually some drunk girl is gonna come stumbling from the sidelines toward center stage, anxious for the chance to show her T & A to all who can't avoid seeing her. She will soon be joined by a small army of drunken girls and boys, seemingly competing to see who can show the most skin, "dance" the wildest without falling down. I've seen 'em fall into the space behind the black curtain that hangs from the front of the stage. Security guards sit idly by while these drunks annoy the crowd. I've seen a lady get up and slap hell out of a drunk exhibitionist, which resulted in both women being ejected. Why it was allowed to get to that point, I'll never understand. Bottom line is it makes the whole "concert" experience a bad one and thats a shame. There was some mention in the article of a dance floor being designated, to save the grass. I'd suggest it could also greatly enhance the overall experience, provided its not put directly in front of the stage so one does not get to see the performers they paid to see, but instead gets to see a show similar to what they would see if they were sitting ringside at The Torch. (I've heard). :)
I think the move is a great idea and its gonna open alot of doors here in Caldwell!!! I'm so excited I've been researching this for the last couple days (as soon as I heard about it)... People are always going to nay say and complain about the drive.... I used to live in Ontario but if my fav band came in town it didnt matter how far, I've even had to drive to salt lake cause well the band doesn't want to stop in Boise... They all might complain now but Caldwell is alot closer than Portland and Salt Lake City... And I hate the knitting factory but that's another story... It's like you said they might yelp negativity but still come back for more (so it doesn't matter what kind of business you use for an analogy pizza or dentist)... It doesn't matter if everyone might not like it cause whether they like it or not this is Idaho and our options are limited... Don't give up and please hire me hahaha I'm a great worker and would love to work for you :)
Hey there, I really do appreciate the folks that have read this far into the comment chain, because it means you really are passionate about this place. We know what the venue has meant to so many kids and musicians over the past decade.
I'll just make one last comment, and then I'll step back and let the faithful of the venue have their say, whether it's to say RIP, we'll miss the old place, or to say they'll see us at the new place once it's up and running.
To patebbc, I agree with your analogy, a utility company is probably a more fitting comparison. We do understand that we have this unique position in the market, and that a lot of the bands that come through idaho will either play the venue or skip town, so we understand the responsibilty we have. It's very similar to idaho power's mandate from the public utility commission and the government of the state, to provide this service to the community, whether it's at a profit or a loss.
When I was contacted by a friend from high school, out of the blue, to take over the venue from the Kecks, who were now in their 60s and could no longer physically or financially support the venue, we understood that if this space was lost, that a large part of the music scene in idaho would die with it. So, as two kids who grew up in the idaho all-ages music scene, jenean and I took on this mantle and have been doing what we can to keep the scene alive, even if some of the most ardent fans of the venue and the current scene have resented us for it.
With all respect to the musicians and fans that are and have been working so hard to keep the scene alive in idaho, truthfully, the people who have kept the doors open at the venue have been the Kecks and now the Claus family, at great personal and financial cost to both families. The Kecks had their reasons for doing it, but for us, it's been for the purpose of keeping the music alive in the state that we grew up in.
When we bought the venue, we knew it would split up our family. I'm working in California, and jenean and the kids are in idaho. The main reason they're not here with me is to keep the doors open and run the building, and the main reason I'm not there is because incomes in idaho aren't sufficient in my line of work to support my family and the venue.
Our sincere desire is to get the venue stabilized to the point where it can pay its own bills and I can come home to be with my family. If the venue does really well, my wife and I might be able to work side by side at this business that we love.
Either way, I expect to be home by early summer, and hopefully I'll be able to shake your hand at the new place, pour you a beer or a soda, and welcome you to the next great show that we've kept from driving right past idaho on the way to seattle or denver.
Best wishes to all, and I do appreciate your best wishes that we'll be able to make this work.
Sincerely, Johann Claus
I am trying very hard to keep positive about the move when just trying to think that hopefully if can keep the scene in this area alive, but it is hard. I have been going to shows for around 10 years, and I would love nothing more for this place to thrive, but the almost condescending tone that I've seen in responses is not easy to overlook. It honestly does alienate people and makes it seem as if you're talking down to people, which I hope is not intended but just maybe a matter of perspective. So, I've been lucky enough to be able to be connected to other scenes in the NW, some of which are in small towns and they are strong with great support from the people. They don't and didn't get strong by blacklisting people for being outspoken, or for personal vendettas. They grow by unity, they grow by a sturdy foundation of not only the owners, but the patrons, the kids in the scene, the "old grizzled vets", and that kid in that bright Asking Alexandria shirt at their first real show. I hope it can work, I want it to. I grew up in Caldwell. I did drive from Caldwell to Boise more times than I can count for shows, but it wasn't just because of the great bands, it was being apart of something bigger. It had that feeling that everyone there was personally invested in everything. That's what is going to needed to help make this place a success. This feeling that I'm getting of "we're going to do this in spite of you" is kind of off putting. Instead I hope it can be more of a "we are going to be doing this and you're welcome to come and be apart of it and hopefully we can show you what we see".
Also comparing a concert venue to a dentist office is about as wise as comparing a pizza joint to an insurance agent...
BUT..if I'm reading into this correctly...is Blacklisted playing the venue? That band rocks
I'd say the comparison is more like Idaho Power not a local dentist. It's almost like a monopoly. We can't really choose to go anywhere else. We can't see the shows we want anywhere else. We're forced to see shows at the venue or not go to shows. oh and by the way the "Angry White Males" have kept the venue's door open for the last decade and without us renting out the place to throw shows it would have been shut down a long time ago.
Is getting into discussions intimidating? Because last time I checked I never threatened anyone..I just raised questions and gave my opinion on issues. If that is intimidating then that's a bummer. If you can't handle criticism..you probably shouldn't be in business. Banning and blocking individuals who engage in conversations with you and raise legitimate questions regarding your business and business decisions shows your true colors and immaturity as a business owner and a company.
Devin, yes we have partnered with Eric Muñiz to present shows at the venue. I reached out to him after we first bought the place, and let him know that as business owners, we wouldn't be offended or hold a grudge if he outbid us on a show, and that if he secured a show that he felt the venue would be the best place to host the show, we would be willing to rent the building to him for the night or work out another agreement. Since then, we've put on about 6-8 shows with Eric, and we'd be happy to do it again. We are happy to entertain any promoter's request to rent the venue for an evening or work out some sort of door split.
Having said that, you don't need to worry about the quality of our upcoming shows, since you're still blacklisted. Nobody is allowed to intimidate other patrons or my wife, online or otherwise, and then expect to still be granted access to our establshment.
Andy, I am sensitive to the comment that I seem to be condescending. Snarky is my default mode, which is why I think The Onion is America's finest news source and why I enjoy reading Josh Gross's articles :-) Allow me to give a little context:
It's hard to imagine another service-oriented business that gets such vehement attacks from the customers who willingly receive services from the business. Let's assume you run a dentist's office, and the Harris family is one of your regular patients. Every6 months, all six of them come into your office and get all their dental needs taken care of, but in the interim, the Harris family goes online to Yelp, Angieslist, your facebook page, the local newspaper's editorial page and rails on your practice, saying things like: close your practice, you effing idiot, or, you have no idea what you're doing when you clean my teeth, I hate what you've done to your office, it's all gone downhill since you brought in a new receptionist, etc. But then, after another six months, the Harris family strolls back into your office, all smiles, enjoying the service you provide for them.
This is pretty much the experience we've had with a few of our detractors, except that we don't have to wait six months for them to come back, we see them the next Thursday, when they come back to see another show that we've provided to them through our mom + pop service to the community. They walk past us, averting eye contact, pay their $14, and then have a great time listening to their favorite bands. It's kinda mind-blowing, so maybe you can excuse our exasperation after two years of doing this.
Regarding our belief that we're making good decisions, it's more like we feel like we won the idaho state lottery. With liquor licenses running $150K in boise, we'd been wracking our brains trying to find a way to keep the doors open, all the while knowing we would never be able to get funding for a license, which is the only way a music venue can stay open. When this opportunity came up to lease a building in caldwell with an owner who was willing to transfer his license to us in the lease for free, it was a dream come true for us, an answer to our prayers (really), and a way for us to keep bringing music to the treasure valley.
To those who think that the neighborhood around the new building is a cesspool or a war zone, of course we checked out the area before we made the decision to move the business, sign a lease and put down a sizeable deposit. The only thing we noticed about the area was that it is predominantly hispanic. If that constitutes a cesspool to you, I can frankly say you are not welcome at the venue. My 'affinity' for the hispanic culture runs a little bit deeper than you might expect from a guy named Johann Claus, since some of the best years of my life were spent in latin america. If you really believe that, then I really don't need you frequenting my business.
Thanks for reading this far into the comment chain. Josh's article has given me a forum to explain what went into this decision in fuller detail than would be possible otherwise.
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