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Re: “2014 Sochi Olympics: Triumph or Nightmare?

It seems like every time the Olympics comes around, whether it is the summer games or winter, the same issues come up "locals hate it," "costs too much," "how will the city use facilities in the future?" etc. The IOC should give serious consideration to stopping this idiotic practice of awarding the 'games' to countries/cities that are not already well prepared to host them.

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Posted by ajax on 01/16/2014 at 9:14 AM

Re: “It's a Cold, Cold World: The Lowest Temperatures Ever Recorded on Earth

Of course, you do know better than marine biologists and climate scientists. And yes, I know a hell of a lot more about Antarctica than you do. After all my wife works there with scientists who study ice mass balances, when she's not there she shares a building with marine biologists who work on ocean acidification. Whose word do I trust?. Some retard on the web or people I know personally, who study this stuff for a living, talk about it while we're drinking beer, it's not a lucrative living BTW, they could make a hell of a lot more money working for industry (and they are incidentally putting their money where their mouths are by buying up property in zones where they know the effects of climate change are going to to be least).
I'd be really interested to hear about the new evolutionary process that allows some species to adapt to such rapid increases in dissolved CO2 levels.
Toddle off to Skeptical Science and get an education.
Like I say, Dunning-Krueger...

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Posted by Trev on 01/16/2014 at 7:08 AM

Re: “It's a Cold, Cold World: The Lowest Temperatures Ever Recorded on Earth

Go ahead & Blather and flaunt your ignorance. Solar radiation, incoming is short wave passing right through the atmosphere except where reflected by clouds and returning infrared radiation (Heat) is long wave of which only about 8% of is captured by CO2. Like I said before, Atmospheric H2O (relative humidity & clouds) which captures and transports Heat away from the Earth is responsible for about 95% of the so called "green house effect". Greenhouse is a misnomer because a tremendous amount of convective cooling occurs in the atmosphere which doesn't occur in a "greenhouse".

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Posted by Mick on 01/15/2014 at 7:01 PM

Re: “It's a Cold, Cold World: The Lowest Temperatures Ever Recorded on Earth

Much of Ocean life evolved in seas that contained 10X the CO2 than the seas do now. You gotta be a Nitwit to fall for the Apocalyptic Ocean Acidification hoax. Go live in Antarctica or Siberia for awhile and see if you still got the Anthropogenic Global Warming Religion.

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Posted by Mick on 01/15/2014 at 6:39 PM

Re: “It's a Cold, Cold World: The Lowest Temperatures Ever Recorded on Earth

Dunning Krueger effect writ large I'm afraid. With a healthy dose of Confirmation Bias thrown in to boot.

Do you really think that you know better than atmospheric scientists? Uh Huh, they are part of the conspiracy. You, however, who gets his information from denialist blogs are so much better informed!

I could blather on endlessly about long and short wave radiation and the difference that makes to energy balances but it ain't gonna make a blind bit of difference.

It really is interesting how most denialists use their own characteristics to reflect back on those who point out the errors of their BS. Words like "Faith" "Conspiracy" "Lack of Evidence" and "Brainwashing".

All while there are organisations out there that have documented agendas to distort the public's perception of the science. It appears that you are either heavily influenced by or work for one of them, since you've basically used every one of their talking points (all of which can be refuted by the science). It leads one to suspect that maybe you're a paid shill. If so, you forgot to mention growth in Antarctic sea ice extent, that it's the sun, no concensus etc etc.... I supose it was a bit too much to cover without being really obvious.

Oh BTW, you may want to look up ocean acidification if you think there are no problems with a 1000ppm CO2 level...also have a dip into transpiration effects of elevated CO2 levels on ground water uptake by plants.

PS I like the appeal to reason, "I'm not a crank because I don't believe in this other crank stuff" nice touch.

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Posted by Trev on 01/14/2014 at 7:42 PM

Re: “It's a Cold, Cold World: The Lowest Temperatures Ever Recorded on Earth

Sorry kid you've been brainwashed with the quasi religious belief that Anthropogenic CO2 is causing Global Warming and you don't know squat about the physics or chemistry of CO2 and the so called "green house effect". For example, Atmospheric CO2 only delays or captures about 8% of the infrared energy radiating from the earth. Over 90% of the infrared radiation passes right through the CO2 molecule. Sorry about your brainwashing but I'm a liberal who deals with evidence not nonsense. For example I'm not anti-Science. I happen to think that the anti-vaccine people are paranoid nut cases, and I think that teaching "intelligent design" is teaching religion. Did you happen to notice during the last 10 years that Winter weather "disasters" have happen in the rest of the world with scant coverage by the U.S. Global warming media propagandists. Winter Cold Weather Storms in both the northern and southern hemispheres have killed thousands of humans and their livestock in Mongolia,Northern Europe, Northern Russia and in South America. I can go on & on with facts, not fiction if you'd like. It took top "Scientists" at the time about 70 years to realize that the "missing link piltdown man skull" was a Hoax. There is absolutely no evidence that 400ppm-1000ppm atmospheric CO2 is detrimental to life on earth and that a CO2 tipping point has been reached. There is plenty of documented Scientific evidence that increased Atmospheric CO2 has caused increased Plant growth during the last 100 years. So the average temperature of Hailey Idaho is at least 3degreesF warmer than Sun Valley, Idaho. Does that mean that Hailey is an environmental disaster area? You got Faith, Kid, but you don't have evidence on your side.

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Posted by Mick on 01/12/2014 at 5:21 PM

Re: “Here's How People in Muslim Countries Think Women Should Dress

Maybe the majority of Muslims are frustrated Catholics, since the preferred garb for women is a nun's habit.

Posted by watcher on 01/12/2014 at 2:46 PM

Re: “Video: A Small British Town's Crazy New Year's Tradition

The rabble need their distractions or they might pay attention to what's really going on around them.

Posted by watcher on 01/12/2014 at 2:33 PM

Re: “After Allegations of Affair, French First Lady Hospitalized

C'est la vie!

Posted by watcher on 01/12/2014 at 2:27 PM

Re: “It's a Cold, Cold World: The Lowest Temperatures Ever Recorded on Earth

Sounds to me like you've just disgorged pretty well every talking point put out by the Heartland Institute Et Al. It's hilarious (if it wasn't so egregious) how deniers (and I use that as a perjorative) have ACTUALLY been swindled by information put out by organisations who, by their own admission, have an aim to confuse and distort the science because of their ideology and to their financial advantage. And yet the same organisations claim that there is some kind of collective conspiracy, which includes pretty well every government and scientific agency in the world, to convince the world that there is a "non existent" problem.

Just some more factoids, since you seem to like picking cherries: You realise that the sea level has risen and dropped since the end of the last ice age, and is now on the way back up in tropical latitudes? You realise that scientists are worried about the rate of climate change, not the fact it is changing? And that scientists DON'T ingnore previous climate changes (just because you think and say that, doesn't make it true); There is a large amount of research into paleo-climate looking at the response of the climate to differing levels of green house gasses. That the Carboniferous period was called that because that's when the carbon was stored as coal? And that science is not some prescription carved into a stone tablet, if you want that level of "certainty" then I suggest you look up a certain book, in the mean time the science will keep improving as more data comes to hand. If the models weren't changing then there would be a problem.

But I could go on for pages with the science that refutes all your quasi scientific truthiness, but basically nothing would change your mind, it's about ideology- humans couldn't possibly affect the climate could they?, that would mean changing our behaviour, and think what that would do to the bottom line of the 1% who are telling you what to think.

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Posted by Trev on 01/11/2014 at 5:25 PM

Re: “Dennis Rodman in North Korea: The Most Painful Video You'll See All Day

ok ive never seen Rodman speak before? Was he completely loaded or is that normal?

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Posted by rich.breton.3 on 01/11/2014 at 11:39 AM

Re: “It's a Cold, Cold World: The Lowest Temperatures Ever Recorded on Earth

"Good thing there are people like you Mick, to make sure all those stupid scientists are shown the errors of their ways. How obvious it is when you explain it so simply. How could they make such a basic error? Doh!"

The irony of your thoughts, Trev, is that today I read an article about the debate that is always on going and they even said that the most recent IPPC report that was released was already out dated because the climate models are changing.

When I saw that the climate models are changing that means that either the inputs or the algorhythms are changing. Yet if the supposed science was settled then how come the models have to be changed and updated constantly? Supposedly they are right but scientists, supposedly, are surprised that sea level changes are different than previously projected. They are surprised that ice levels on the caps are changing at different rates that previously projected. They didn't know that the Polar Vortex, or Canadian Clipper, that is nothing new, would dip down like this (as it has many times over history).

Also, a real scientist who is not blinded by his or her own bias KNOWS that the science on something of even modest complexity is never settled so how can this be? If it is settled then why change the models? According to them the models are right? I wonder if these are the same models, with updates, that when I was in grade school told the scientists that an ice age was upon us? Cripes, there was talk of spreading carbon black on the polar caps to try to trap heat so we wouldn't get so cold! Didn't they know about global warming gasses like CO2 and H2O? Those should have been in the models. Ask yourself what changed in the previous models that had them once predicting an ice age to suddenly predicting that we would warm instead? Why did they change the name of the issue from Global Warming to Climate Change? The climate always changes and nobody argues that point. The argument is the exaggeration of global warming and the assumption that man is the largest impactor.

The Earth has always cycled. During the grand millions of years of dinosaurs the temps were 7 to 10 degrees C hotter and the earth was covered with vegetation yet we are told that if things warm we have starvation, desertification, and plagues to look forward to. The warmer supporters act as if they speak with 100% certainty while changing their models and ignoring what the history of the planet is - much hotter many times than now, much cooler many times than now but suddenly man's CO2 output is the reason for the warming.

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Posted by mjs_28s on 01/10/2014 at 7:40 PM

Re: “It's a Cold, Cold World: The Lowest Temperatures Ever Recorded on Earth

There's plenty of Scientists who disagree and there is plenty of Scientific evidence especially in the Geologic Record that is politically correct to ignore presently. I'll make it even simpler for you. Since the beginning of the end of the latest ice age about 20 thousand years ago, mean sea level has risen about 400 ft from melting glaciers and atmospheric temperature has warmed about 20degreesF. Scientifically documented and not anthropogenic. Daytime Climate is warmer the Nighttime Climate. Summer Climate is warmer than Winter Climate. Change in the amount of Solar Radiation or Change in the amount of atmospheric CO2? You Choose.

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Posted by Mick on 01/10/2014 at 4:32 PM

Re: “The Top 4 Threats to World Peace

FOUR HORSEMEN is an award winning independent feature documentary which lifts the lid on how the world really works.

As we will never return to 'business as usual' 23 international thinkers, government advisors and Wall Street money-men break their silence and explain how to establish a moral and just society.

FOUR HORSEMEN is free from mainstream media propaganda -- the film doesn't bash bankers, criticise politicians or get involved in conspiracy theories. It ignites the debate about how to usher a new economic paradigm into the world which would dramatically improve the quality of life for billions.

"It's Inside Job with bells on, and a frequently compelling thesis thanks to Ashcroft's crack team of talking heads -- economists, whistleblowers and Noam Chomsky, all talking with candour and clarity." - Total Film

Posted by Benj Hall on 01/10/2014 at 4:02 PM

Re: “It's a Cold, Cold World: The Lowest Temperatures Ever Recorded on Earth

Good thing there are people like you Mick, to make sure all those stupid scientists are shown the errors of their ways. How obvious it is when you explain it so simply. How could they make such a basic error? Doh!

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Posted by Trev on 01/09/2014 at 9:27 PM

Re: “It's a Cold, Cold World: The Lowest Temperatures Ever Recorded on Earth

400ppm CO2=1 molecule of CO2 for 2500 Molecules of Atmosphere. CO2=Atmospheric Trace Gas unable to capture & delay a significant amount of infrared energy leaving the Earth. Atmospheric H20=95% of the Greenhouse Gas effect.

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Posted by Mick on 01/09/2014 at 8:57 PM

Re: “It's a Cold, Cold World: The Lowest Temperatures Ever Recorded on Earth

Spell check = garbage in = garbage out.

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Posted by Trev on 01/09/2014 at 2:46 PM

Re: “It's a Cold, Cold World: The Lowest Temperatures Ever Recorded on Earth

Excuse me. That's Pleistocene Ice Age and Pleistocene interglacial. Climate Models=Garbage in=Garbage out.

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Posted by Mick on 01/09/2014 at 9:04 AM

Re: “That Coffee You're Drinking May Not Be So Fair Trade After All

Read Peter Griffiths, 'Ethical Objections to Fairtrade' in Journal of Business Ethics

Posted by Peter Griffiths on 01/09/2014 at 6:05 AM

Re: “It's a Cold, Cold World: The Lowest Temperatures Ever Recorded on Earth

I dispute your claim that we are in the Plasticine Ice Age. I maintain we are just entering the Playdough Interglacial. The current Fimo period just shows the Flexibility of climate Models

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Posted by Trev on 01/08/2014 at 11:40 PM


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