It's easy to get side tracked and debate religious matters as BYUI is a religiously based intuition. What matters is that the rules were agreed to before attendance started and they've been broken. Some may agree this style is rejected by the rule code, some may disagree. It's a grey area as it's above the ears and clean but still considered extreme. The people that made the rule get to decide which way the hammer swings in the matter. Accept it or find another school. The religious references and Morman slandering are irrelevant and disrespectful. Those comments are not contributing to the discussion and those people are using this forum only to complain and attack while not really debating the original topic. Note: this style violates the military dress code as well. If a soldier broke the code no one would be talking about Jesus. It has nothing to do with Mormons or other religion. A rule is a rule regardless of the rule maker's background or reason. Accept the rules or find another playground to run around in.
Discipline - (this is mostly referring the brother Hardman) "by small and simple things, great things are brought to pass". What a true statement. However, I do not think it means what you think it means. My interpretation and the logical one, I think, is that great things begin by the smallest of steps. It doesn't imply whether these things are god or bad, just great. This bun issue is a very small thing and it's implications are large. It is very sexist at its core. To have such a double standard is rediculous and am glad to believe that more and more people are progressing beyond such ignorant thought. To have an organization based on education and spiritualism get caught up on such an insignificant topic speaks to a fundamental flaw in the execution of their proclaimed perpose and is a HUGE red flag that may imply alterior motives.
For the purpose of context, I am still tecnically mormon, but do not believe in the teachings or any ominous god for that matter. However, I have a great respect for many of their beliefs, primarily theor family valuess and sense of community. You know the importany things, people. Rant concluded.
This whole thing being an issue is utterly absurd on every level:
Religion - Yes, the depictions of Jesus Christ shows him with long hair and yes, by the way, brother Neumann, Jesus was middle eastern. No, I can't imagine "God" caring about the length of anyone's hair unless somehow it's unhealthy for them. I'm not sure how that would be possible.
Professionalism - There is something to be said about the topic, but I believe our standards are largely completely unrelated to our concerns. Professionalism is desired because we want to have faith that the person were doing business with is reliable. For instance, if one is not capable of caring for themself, such as maintaining a reasonable amount of cleanliness and order to their own person, how can I have faith that they will be able to do what it is that I need of them. If a man is able to grow and care for his long hair (this is far more work than with short hair) I have higher hopes that he can help me than if he was disheveled. Tattoos do not imply that one cannot accomplish his/her tasks.
Any of you idiots ever been to boarding school? They have rules too you have to follow including hair regulation for boys. Just because there are rules and standards doesn't make them wrong. Read the article without the word Mormon.
Accusations of corporatism? Check.
Shilling for 'big pharma?' Check.
Claims of lying and/or bullying? Check.
Vaccination = rape? Check.
It's pseudoscience bingo!
Seriously, I'm convinced that vaccines are a victim of their own success - they work so well that we forgot how bad the diseases they prevent are.
Cowboy Jesus, Jewish Jesus and hippy Jesus doesn't approve.
The point isn't that the LDS church thinks man buns are evil. It's something way simpler than that. There is a scripture that says "by small and simple things, great things are brought to pass." Obeying the rules of the honor code are not to enslave and brainwash, it's to teach them how to obey the commandments of God. There is a trend that those who aren't able to follow the simple rules of the honor code and complain about it also typically have the same attitude towards Gods commandments. Complaining and hating them when they are really there to liberate you. It's easy for me to see how the honor code has changed my life for the better. But don't think that the LDS church is proclaiming man buns a sin or anything like that, that's just naively searching for a way to bring hatred into this small issue
Your mom has a man bun
Why apply so much criticism to a topic you do not fully understand? BYUI is an LDS Church run university where principals of professionalism and cleanliness meet to help students prepare for a successful career in their chosen field.
The man bun is just ridiculous looking. And don't get me started with that stupid top knot. The people saying "didn't Jesus have long hair?" Are probably the same people who would say he was a middle eastern, possibly black, etc so shut up with your hypocrisy. The man bun has to go
Pretty sure they're banning them because they are ugly. 😂😂😂 stop arguing over religion and come to terms with it. Stop the buns guys you look fugly. The end.
Just to clear up some confusion some people seem to be having -- Jesus did not attend BYU.
Seems like the regulations are a bit on the sexist side. The rule should apply to both males and females or to no one at all. Of course I'd be thrilled just to have enough hair to put in a bun or a ponytail! hahaha :D
Just so all of you know, this is part of the BYUI dress code. Its not like the LDS church banned it. At BYUI they strive for professionalism and a clean cut look to prepare us for a typical or usual workplace in future careers. Yes, Jesus had long hair. Whatever. This is just a dress code for this school. If you don't like it, don't go to school here. Go somewhere where you can do that. Its not a sin to have long hair. If you come here because this is your only option for school, great, we'd love to have you, but this is the dress code. Don't whine about it, just show respect to the rules that they have established. Sometimes we have to sacrifice things we want and that's just part of life. That could be a reason for this dress code. I'm not saying I love every little rule, in fact, I hate having short hair, but I have respect for the rules and this is coming from someone who had hair down to my shoulders. This generation has a high scence of entitlement.
Maybe the school administration should take a tour of the retail stores to see that the options for the girls are quite limited as far as covered shoulders. This seems very unfair and even punitive, for little reason. Since when does being a 'premier' school mean students' dress for one event cannot be modified? Narrow.
Re ChristyAnn's post:
I'm confident that the pro-vaxxers have no intention of resting until ALL children and adults are forced to received EVERY vaccine the pro-vaxxers want to force on them. The intolerance, the bullying, and the lying of the pro-vaxxers caught my attention long before I learned that the pro-vaxxers have no science supporting their position.
Yes, when vaccination is forced on those who don't want it--when something is forced into another's body, or into the bodies of their children, against their will--that IS rape. People like Rick Perry are truly reprehensible.
During the congressional investigation of vaccine safety ten-plus years ago, testimony was submitted pointing out that mandatory vaccination is a violation of the Nuremberg Code. Think the Nazi threat is gone? Better think again.
"The Refusers," the pro-freedom band with great song lyrics about vaccination, has one entitled, "Get Your Mandates Out of My Body." They're worth checking out.
Silliness in the extreme. Stepford wives are completely acceptable, but don't let men wear their hair in a bun ... because "sinful."
I just checked out 'Jesus' at the Mormon Book Store - Deseret Books - on line, and found a whole bunch of pictures, all in the likeness of Jesus. None of those pictures showed Jesus' s hair trimmed above the collar leaving the ear uncovered. Looks like that's one bro who won't be attending BYU this semester. What a heretic. All of his pictures should be removed from the Mormon bookstore immediately. Can a fellow stay in school at BYU if his long locks simply hang down free-flowing rather than being pulled up in a bun? What if he works in the food line at the campus cafeteria? Expelled? Puleeze. Aren't there bigger problems in this world than hair buns?
Hey if you don't like the rules don't go there!
Another lawsuit that taxpayers get to pay for. How many of these have we won in the last few years. Think about all the money we need to come up with to cover attorney fees and we keep losing. Either we need better attorney's or better lawsuits.
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