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Re: “Beltane, Self-Titled

Well Josh, thanks for taking the time to review our CD! It's clear that you didn't like it, but that's not a problem for me. When an artist turns in their art to be reviewed by someone who is paid to criticize, they know that they may not like what the critic has to say. But I'm not here to criticize your comments, as they speak very loudly for themselves.

There is one thing I would like to ask you on behalf of Beltane, and anyone else who happens your way. PLEASE have the professional integrity to do your research before you speak! You say that Beltane describes itself as a Celtic band and by that, you are insinuating that we are basically misrepresenting ourselves. Our fans describe us as Celtic, but we know we're not the Chieftains! If you had taken time to actually read our website (that you linked to) you would have understood where the "Spanish and Latin music, making heavy use of minor keys, acoustic guitar and flute flourishes" comes from. I'm going to quote, in our own words from that website, what we are about...

"Our music is a rich mix of original songs based on Celtic and World myths and traditions.

Though our foundations may be traditional, our sound is quite “modern”. One can hear the influence of everything from Celtic violin, to Middle Eastern rhythms, to Native
American flutes, and classic American rock guitar.

Ultimately, Beltane’s sound is about the human voice, and its ability to create beauty, and to share messages, feelings and stories. The lush female harmonies, and the beauty and integrity of the lyrics are central to our sound".

Just thought you might like to know, Josh.

17 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by alwaysquestion on 10/11/2012 at 1:02 PM

Re: “Beltane, Self-Titled

Where- oh where- is Michael Deeds when you need him?

5 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by Kimberly Dawn Ritz on 10/11/2012 at 12:02 PM

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First listened to Beltane from New York, where good music was born and critics are overrated. Beltane is good -- their harmonies are excellent, their lyrics are focused, their instrumentation necessary.

Being a "critic" means examining, listening, reading -- it doesn't mean pulling the rug out from people who do what critics can't.

When I was in college it was such fun to dump on creative people. Using fancy verbiage wrapped in a snarky attitude seemed so cool, so perfectly relevant to being 18. But thankfully we all grow up.

Beltane gives, they entertain, they elevate listeners. They also deserve better. Creative Boise deserves better.

14 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by Not 18 on 10/11/2012 at 11:08 AM

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why would a local paper that claims to support local music, have on its staff a reviewer that obviously hates the local music scene? Over the years
I have noticed that the weekly has tried overly hard to seem like a real city paper, which many times it has failed miserably at. I believe that this ridiculous treatment of fine, caring , talented musicians is an attempt at being "real". I personally know some of the musicians this jerk has trashed and his phony and handicapped approach to criticism has caused much harm and not an ounce of good. As a business owner who has won Best of Boise for 4 or 5 years, and has the Weekly in my store it makes me angry and sad that I now have to have these negative feeling about a paper that I have been proud to associate with for many years. I can only ask the Weekly why.

12 likes, 5 dislikes
Posted by Bob Hodge on 10/11/2012 at 9:37 AM

Re: “Beltane, Self-Titled

This review is a poorly written opinion piece by a Portland transplant who revels in cutting any Boise musician that does not fit into the "hipster Treefort scene". When looking at his FaceBook page it is obvious that his pieces are intended to provoke as he often likes to announce his "whereabouts" so readers can "accost him for anything he writes". "THEJoshGross" is anything but genuine. The Boise Weekly would be well advised to employ a critic who can listen objectively to many genres of music rather than a Northwest Poseur that uses his job to promote his own frat boy band. Could we please have good writing and thoughtful reviews rather than some faux coolster slap and tickle? Arrogant and irresponsible. I won't be reading his reviews in the future.

20 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by Kelli Kennison on 10/11/2012 at 8:50 AM

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Funny- I moved across country from Boise to Madison, WI and have shared Beltane with many along the way. Everyone that I have gifted with their music has loved it. Every festival from Goddess Fest to Hyde Park that I attended where Beltane has performed (not to mention their other engagements at Shangri La, etc.) were well attended by diverse crowds and EVERYONE from my toddlers to rockers to grandparents was enjoying themselves. Really BW? A music review written by someone in a band called God Crotch? And I'm supposed to take it seriously?

15 likes, 5 dislikes
Posted by Kimberly Dawn Ritz on 10/11/2012 at 8:02 AM

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This is typical myopic and hasty Boise music critic prose, conveying and disguising personal opinion and emotional reaction as musical fact, clearly two concepts that the reviewer is unable to distinguish in this particular instance. An experienced and discerning music critical knows how to make positive, insightful and interesting comments about a piece of music or group that are based on factual and objective characteristics, while also providing something new and unique for readers to digest. This review, however, devoid of any creativity and finesse, appears to resemble a sophomoric book report or "show 'n tell" depiction that can best be summed up as "I don't like this music, so I'm going to abuse my authoritative position as a critic for BW to dupe my readers into believing that because I think it's so, therefore it is." -- K. Hartung

21 likes, 5 dislikes
Posted by Krispen Hartung on 10/11/2012 at 1:04 AM

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So why write something like this about a band who's project took so much love, devotion and effort to bring to life their joy of making music and sharing it with people who dig them.
If you have such a grudge against their position and belief, toss it to someone else rather than
drool such vitreous disdain and derision all over their record. Your article goes well awry of a cd review, and imparts an obvious bias that renders the whole thing irrelevant.

20 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by Randy Meenach on 10/10/2012 at 10:13 PM

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Wow Josh! Are you feeling like a f*&#@*g asshole yet?

14 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Richele Smith on 10/10/2012 at 8:40 PM

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All I can say is...... This guy is WAY off base. He apparently is unfamiliar with music. Beltane rocks. Period.
From now on, know that the opposite of what this guys says is true!

19 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Joe Wechselberger on 10/10/2012 at 8:30 PM

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Just one more thing in case the owners of the paper are reading this . . . THIS kind of negativity is the reason we do not advertise with the Boise Weekly! And I'll bet there are lots of other business owners who feel the same way.

20 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Jeanine Lesniak on 10/10/2012 at 7:46 PM

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I wish I was a versatile enough musician that I could sound other than the way that I sound so I would sound less "positively fake" hahahaha but i feel soooo enlightened now on how Folk and Pagan is supposed to sound NOT !!!!

18 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Dana Logan on 10/10/2012 at 7:29 PM

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"The lyrical mono-focus is a negative, not only because it is largely unrelatable to non-pagans, but because it is a dull and somewhat cliched examination of the subject matter." Maybe you should do your research, Josh, and figure out what the real impetus for the "cliched examination of the subject matter is." You might find it isn't cliched at all. You're a total dillhole.

18 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Andrea Oyarzabal on 10/10/2012 at 7:26 PM

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I don't know about anyone else thinks but I am sick of negative ASSHOLES getting the job as music reviewer!?!? PLEASE FIRE THIS GUY!!
Why can't we find some people that aren't frustrated musicians that want to rip on everyone else!?! Boise Weekly should be Boise WEAKLY if they allow this kind of negativity!? I mean truly just cause you don't like this kind of music you can't figure out a way to appreciate the talent in it and how hard it is to just put out a record and say at least something objective and halfway kind? These are extremely kind and nice people putting out beautiful, nice music! What records have you put out? What kind of reviews have you gotten? Are you just taking it out on these nice people cause they are an easy target for you!? GOD what a worthless bunch of crap this is you have written! AMAZING!! I am SICK OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!! PLEASE FIRE THIS IDIOT!!!!
Beltane Don't take stock in anything this guys writes.

19 likes, 7 dislikes
Posted by Mark on 10/10/2012 at 7:19 PM

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Love Beltane!
Josh, you're just an asshole...

17 likes, 7 dislikes
Posted by Jason Craig on 10/10/2012 at 7:08 PM

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Rediculous Josh. You should be ashamed.

17 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Curtis M on 10/10/2012 at 7:05 PM

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Looking at your career, it is obvious that your stock and trade is negative reviews. Do you think this makes you look cool? Because the actual effect is just the opposite. Are you just frustrated with your own minimal musical talent and your flailing attempts at entertaining? Your arrogance, coupled with your band name (GodCrotch? really?) positively scream "small penis".

23 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Jeanine Lesniak on 10/10/2012 at 6:52 PM

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As a non pagan who enjoys their you you be so mean to such a nicely talented group of musicians? They may not sound like the canned likes of Katy or Gaga but YAY, because that is the point. Sometimes when stick your head above the crowd, someone throws a tomato. Let's have a Beltane party & make pasta with red sauce!!!

19 likes, 5 dislikes
Posted by dgscarlett on 10/10/2012 at 6:40 PM

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All I can say is wow! I have been a fan of Beltane for many years, back when Beltane was just Susan and Dana. I own a copy of their CD, and bought 2 others as gifts. I have also watched them perform live. At Hyde Park last month I saw them perform in front of a large diverse crowd, even the little children enjoyed their performance. After reading this review all I can think is that the author must be anti-pagan.

23 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by Richele Smith on 10/10/2012 at 5:54 PM

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That was positively HARSH! These guys/girls are amazingly talented and their music is beautiful! Just exactly who died and made you the Nazi critic?

25 likes, 7 dislikes
Posted by Jaz Fagan on 10/10/2012 at 5:42 PM


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