AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! PO LY - Are you really "It Is MASSV"?
Regardless - Tell me I'm not right! Can I get a show of hands? PO LY's a douche? Right? I am the last person to just hate for hate's sake. That's guys like PO LY's role. But I have seen this goofball berate people (mostly women) on more than a couple of occasions. When he gets hammered, he likes to call people out. You might call me a coward because you don't know who I am. But I don't see you publicly outing yourself either. MAybe you and PO LY aren't the same guy. Maybe you two just really, really like each other. In a kind of dom/sub type way. I could see it now. Does PO LY get the paddle, or do you tell him YOU get to do the spanking because "It Is MASSV"?
Trying to Move On: You are a coward.
Good job, PO LY! Pretty sure you weren't there for any of it. Mostly because nobody trusts you. But just like always, you're quick to come in after the fact and talk smack about everybody. Even those of us that have put up with your misogynistic, hatefulness for years. Yet another reason why most of us think you're a total douche.
To the families that created such wonderful people: bless you. My prayer is that time will heal and that love will replace bitterness and loss for all, but especially the people that raised them, and lived with them, as they developed into bright stars that shone brightly during their lives. To the Glick and Peterson families: Thank you.
MASSV was more than anyone could have imagined! It was truly a game changing event. It was so much fun! The house was packed and rocking for a very long time both nights. MASSV is on its way to becoming the Northern Rocky's premiere music event.
Thank you all who participated and love to all!
Peace to all, and let the spirit of Zach and Courtney/CJ live on in love and harmony.
They are gone but their spirits live on.
To the families of both Zach and CJ: My sincere condolences for both your losses. I'd also like to apologize for the treatment that you received from a relatively small portion of the Boise Community. Please understand that many of us find their actions, as well as their twisted account of events to be disgusting lies, and the posts left above to be nothing more than a last ditch effort at appearing justified for acting like retards. Understand that the only reason you saw this recent resurgence was due to the anonymity this message board provides. Also, know that despite their greatest efforts to derail this party, their efforts were ultimately a waste of of their time, because MASSV was successful to say the least, and a fitting tribute to both Zach and CJ.
MASSV was a great event. It was nice to finally be able to attend one of Zack and CJ's parties. I've always wanted to join them, and did so tonight. I could feel them with me, as I danced the night away. Thank you for putting on such an awesome event, and for honoring CJ and Zack. Even with the turmoil in this thread, the event was a success, and I think that CJ and Zack would be proud.
This is what I read:
"This promoter was trying to put together a benefit fundraiser for what was left of DP (now called Psyence Labs under threat of legal action), at the request of Zack and CJ's closest friends and business partners." There were/are no business partners and there is/was no DP without Zack & CJ.
"There was zero money to be used for anything other than trying to continue the work that Zack, Justin and others had been working on for years." I think this is a very clear statement about the main objective. Zack is not in need of funding to continue his work, which leaves "Justin and others", Psyence Lab.
"Any money that could be set aside for a memorial to Zack and CJ would be, and the next allotment was to go to help with Sound Camp at EE. IF there was any money left over, it would have gone to DP." This too, sounds like the memorial was not the priority.
At it's root the "memorial fundraiser" was simply a fundraiser for Psyence Lab.
I have no idea where the proceeds from MASSV are going. I do know that MASSV is not promoting the festival as something CJ & Zack are going to profit/benefit from. I do know that Zack & CJ were very excited about this festival, so much so, that we were planning to attend. No, I don't think you're being disrespectful.
I guess I read this differently than you:
" Any money that could be set aside for a memorial to Zack and CJ would be, and the next allotment was to go to help with Sound Camp at EE. IF there was any money left over, it would have gone to DP."
I was actually part of the planning process, and I don't see how anyone could have misconstrued what we were trying to do. I still don't understand why it is OK for MASSV to use their names. Are Brent and Henry going to donate all of their proceeds to charity? I hope you don't feel I'm being disrespectful here. Just trying to find the truth. I agree with other posters that if these incriminating statements, emails, or documents exist, then why would anybody not put that out for the community to read. If these people were legitimately underhanded and only looking to profit, then we should all know that. I guess I'm just missing something, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I was in the room while my husband, Luke was on the phone with the gentleman from the Knitting Factory. During this conversation, when asked where the money from this fundraiser was going, the answer was: to Psyence Lab. There was NOTHING mentioned about a memorial to CJ and Zack, it was to raise funds for Psyence Lab. Our objection to the event was that it was presented as if CJ and Zack / Dark Psyence were going to benefit from the funds raised. Had it been presented as such via the website we would have considered it fraudulent, (as there was no possibility of CJ & Zack/DP benefitting) therein "legal action" came into the conversation. (If you read my post, you'll see I did not refer to that as a lie.) Dark Psyence was a sole proprietorship run by Zack and CJ, there was no one "left" and no one has legal authority to use the name. I'm not aware of any business partners. The suggestion I posted on the website was that the event be advertised as just what it was, a fundraiser for Psyence Lab. The ad for this event was changed on the website afterward. That's how things played out. I don't know if you saw the original advertisement for the event, I did. If you look at "It is Dumb"'s post, you'll see that funds for a memorial to CJ and Zack were not the focus, it was funds for Psyence Lab. I'll add again, that had the funds raised been targeted for charity or a legitimate cause there would have been no objection to a "memorial fundraiser." I'm well aware of the enormity of the loss of CJ & Zack to your community and thank you for your kind comments about them. Sherry Glick
Mrs. Glick - First let me say that the loss of your daughter and Zack was a tragic blow to a very tight knit community. I'm not sure anybody knew how to handle things properly in the wake of the accident. This however, is certainly no excuse for any dishonest activities on ANYONE'S part. So I would happily call out my friends that were involved if there was some proof that they did something shady. I haven't personally seen any of the emails, posts or otherwise, so I'm not one that can speak for any of those people. What I CAN say is this: I wasn't in the room as "It is DUMB" says they were when your husband had this conversation with this local promoter. But I DO know this promoter, and I have done business with him. And I can truly say that he has always been honest, forthright and above board in every business dealing I know of with him. I happen to know for a fact that when Dark Psyence's last event with him did not sell tickets, meaning that Zack and CJ would lose a ton of money, this promoter refunded their rent on his venue, and actually ended up cutting them a check for all of the revenue. He took a loss, so that Zack and CJ would take less of one. And I know that he was just trying to hold an event that would honor Zack and CJ's memory, while raising some funds for a memorial. The original idea for the event was to raise money for a proper memorial for Zack and CJ. After the event was confirmed, he was told that the money for the memorial had already been raised. He immediately went to Zack and CJ's closest friends and asked if they should cancel the event, or find another good cause to donate the proceeds to. I know he told some of us directly that he did not want anything to look like he was trying to make a profit. This is easily confirmed by public Facebook posts. The overwhelming response was to continue on with the event, and give the money to Sound Camp for Esthetic Evolution. The event was to be called a Psyence Lab fundraiser, because a.) The DP crew were told they could no longer use the name "Dark Psyence", and b.) Zack and CJ's friends wanted any extra funds to go to PL. The general thought was that there would be very little money to give away from the event, so everyone agreed it should be a night about celebrating Zack and CJ's lives, and IF there was money, it would go directly to where it was needed. Again - I wasn't there, but I trust these people when they tell me that he was threatened with legal action for saying the event was a tribute to them. Are you saying that that is just a lie? Did your husband threaten to sue this promoter if he used the phrase "A Tribute to Zack and CJ"? I am very sorry for your loss, as CJ was an amazing person. A bright soul in a dark world. And those of us close to Zack know how she changed him for the better, and that the two of them together lit up so many lives with their love. I for one am just thankful I knew them, however short that time was. I hate to see all of this fighting, but I find it hard to believe that SO MANY people tell the same story, and those weren't people from Zack and CJ's maternal or paternal families. They are people from what we call our Phamily, and I just can't see ALL of them telling the same lie.
I'll respond to "It is Dumb"'s comment first by giving my name, Sherry Glick. I"m Courtney (CJ) Peterson's mother. As to the tirade regarding the "benefit fundraiser" in memory of Courtney and Zachary, it was simply a fundraiser for Psyence Lab. It had nothing to do with CJ and Zachary. Had it been a true fundraiser, with the money going to charity or a legitimate cause there would have been no issue. As for the MASSV festival and the statement "THEY" agreed to cut the families in", this is a lie. If you have proof otherwise, please share it. Regarding, "who stole" CJ and Zachary's things, I don't know who took what, having arrived two days after the accident, but my husband and I have none of it. Again, if you have proof otherwise, please share it. I find these accusations offensive. Who are you "It is Dumb'?
I'm not sure exactly what "It is MASSV" was witness to, but I can tell you that I was in the room when a local promoter received a phone call from Lucas Glick (CJ's father). This promoter was trying to put together a benefit fundraiser for what was left of DP (now called Psyence Labs under threat of legal action), at the request of Zack and CJ's closest friends and business partners. There was zero money to be used for anything other than trying to continue the work that Zack, Justin and others had been working on for years. Any money that could be set aside for a memorial to Zack and CJ would be, and the next allotment was to go to help with Sound Camp at EE. IF there was any money left over, it would have gone to DP. But Mr. Glick called this local promoter and told him that if he even used the words "A Tribute to Zack and CJ Peterson", OR "In Memory of Zack and CJ Peterson", that he would sue that promoter so fast "his head would spin". I watched this promoter try to reason with Mr. Glick for a half hour - just trying to find a reason why the Boise EDM community couldn't say they were doing this event in their memory. Mr. Glick basically said that they could use their names, but only if all the money went to him. So the promoter had NO choice but to drop their names from the event. It wasn't even 48 hours later when MASSV started using the phrase "In Memory of Zack and CJ Peterson" on their event. Why? Because THEY agreed to cut the families in. So when you say these things are untrue, I question how you could make that assumption. Also - If you were there, and you say you know that "their house was ransacked", then you MUST know they didn't live alone. Let's talk to the people that lived in the same house with them, and ask THEM who stole Zack and CJ's things (as well as property that DIDN'T belong to Zack and CJ). You can take what you THINK you saw on the DP board and twist into how the Glicks and Colleen are not slimeballs, but those that were REALLY there know the truth. If these conversations exist, then by all means, make them public. Post them here. Or in the Facebook event page. Or anywhere. But you can't. Because they don't exist! Don't just take what the slimeballs told you as gospel and then spout it out like you have some inside info. If you really have access to these conversations POST THEM! I'll throw my support behind the guy that says he would start a new competing festival.
I was there. I know what happened. I know how hard Zach and Brent worked on this together. I know how glad Zach was to have Brent on board, and vice versa. I know how hard the investors/planners in Ketchum tried to keep the Boise EDM crowd on board, but their demands became preposterous and their voices became shrill. The comment that there was threats of legal action and violence against the Boise folks it as silly as it is false. The only legal threats were by Zach and CJ's families, since their house was ransacked by a bunch of "friends" from DP, less than 12 hours after they died. DP acted like they did not know what happened to the 5K of stuff they removed, but it is documented on their chat room, DP dividing the spoils while the family's grieve. Sad, pathetic, and unbelievably selfish.
If you were an investor/planner and you heard the the DP team had lied to Zach and CJ's family about this, would you trust them with your money? If so, I can give you their contact info so you can send them all the money you'd like to 'invest".
BTW, I was at MASSV last night. It was amazing! Those guys knocked it out of the park! Love to Zach's and CJ's families and the rest of the MASSV team!
Zack's equipment was stolen? The only people that "stole" his equipment were his family. The family even took things that didn't belong to them. As others have said here before, maybe you should actually TALK to Zack and CJ's housemates and hear how THEY feel about what was stolen. Two things about the last comment: First - Super petty to talk about how he spelled his name. It's pretty stupid actually. I only ever saw Zack spell it with it a "K". As in "Zacklander". But I don't think he would care HOW it was spelled, as long as it was written with - wait for it - love. I personally can't see any love in what any of the MASSV team have done since April 22nd. Second - I think building a competing festival would be a GREAT idea. I'm willing to pledge the time and effort to make it happen. And I think you have severely underestimated the "bravado and juice" of those that just didn't want Zack and CJ's memory used in a loathsome way. The fact that they are going to continue to say MASSV is "In Memory of Zack and CJ Peterson", after they threatened people in Boise with LAWSUITS for even SAYING they wanted to do an event in their memory, is so far beyond hypocritical that it makes people just want to see those individuals never succeed. THEY were the ones that took the death of others, and have tried to make money from it. I don't care what anybody says. Zack confided in some of us his real feelings for some of these people (including Colleen), and even from the grave, I can hear him whisper to them - "Karma is a bitch".
Interesting, Nickelback played to sold out venues in 2011 and by the looks of the video posted for Josh, he sold out a Starbucks. Compared to drivel of copycat wannabe's in the, everyone is musician, music industry - Nickelback are what they are. Like them or not, they are successful...they laugh all the way to the bank. And that pisses off individuals like cynical, balding, paunch(y), Josh..............Sorry about your small p.enis Josh.
He left out the part where someone broke into Zach/k's place and stole his equipment after he died. (Whom of those closest to him should I consult on how to properly spell his name? Many of his close friends spell it differently. That's right... So close.) The author also left out the part that insight into the DP message board showed people going back and forth about who should get what.... and complaining when his equipment went to his family. These are the people who will try to pass off other's actions as deplorable whilst their own are deemed to be what is right based on how they say Zach/k felt about his family.
So for all the whiners out there complaining about the festival going on... which is still a mess but more organized than it was when this tragedy happened and all you guys were "in charge"... since you are such professionals with a consummate knowledge of the scene and the politics it takes to get one of these rolling... it should be no problem to get another festival going and stomp the hell out of this one. Right? I figured that as strong as your crew is/was... that should be no issue at all. Or is all the bravado and juice that you guys said you had... was that all a front?
As one of Zach's closest friends and cofounder of Dark Psyence I can tell you that there are a lot of flaws with this article. After their deaths the festival was taken from the people that helped him with the label and turned over to a competing production company. This would have been the last thing that they would have wanted. They also told us that we could no longer use the Dark Psyence name which is particularly upsetting to me since we created the name together. So when my dear friends died their dream died with them due to the greed of others. This festival will go on in vain.
oh boy...i have read all the comments that have been posted and am seriously disgusted by all of you. Would you all really think that not having a festival would be Zach and CJ's opinion if things didnt go their way? This is the real world people and you need money to make things happen. In order to bring money you have to appease the masses. Please, at least the festival is still happening and it is due to the dreams of these two beautiful people. RESPECT THAT!
This is typical writing by "The" Josh Gross (HIS title for himself). He talks to a couple of his buddies that support his Godcrotch Experiment, and only gets one side of the story. Did he talk to any of the "several people assisting Peterson"? I doubt it. Do some real work for once Josh. Not just another easy piece to meet a deadline. If you have any journalistic integrity, you'll actually talk to those people that were "assisting" Zacklander, and write a follow up piece about the truth.
Dude - You seriously have the cajones to use the name "WWZ&CJD"? What would they do? If they were here right now, they would be telling the investors and organizers that they took their vision, twisted it, and systematically destroyed relationships that took years to build. These "one or three collaborators" that you claim to know were treated like their opinions meant nothing, in the wake of a tragic loss. How would you feel if your best friends had just died, and while you are trying to pick up the pieces, you are told the pieces aren't yours to pick up? Unless of course you have money! There were threats of litigation, as well as physical harm to the "collaborators", and it was based on one thing, and only one thing. Money. When people that Zack and CJ had zero respect for, and would have NEVER allowed to have even the smallest say in their business dealings came out of the woodwork following their deaths, the ONLY consideration was money. How much can we make, and if we don't make money this year, how can we make sure that we make money next year? You are correct when you say that the event will most likely lose money. How could that have been prevented even without Zack and CJ around? By listening to, working with, and finding common ground with, the people who were closest to them. The EDM community in Boise did not start this. The community had no issue whatsoever with MASSV continuing on to fulfill Zack's dreams. Do you think that is what happened? While I try never to speak for a whole community, and I am obviously generalizing here (there will obviously be EDM fans from Boise who can't resist the urge to see GO or BA), I think I can honestly say without hesitation - What would Zack and CJ do? They would be sad, disappointed and angry. But not at those that loved them and just wanted MASSV done properly. They would reserve their head shaking for those that THINK they knew them, and instead trashed their dreams.
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