in all fairness... I wouldn't go if tickets were $5
This Josh Gross person is a Moron.
Ohh wahhh. I can't believe the promoter above complaining. This is best rock journalism I've read since a DC guy named Ian McCaleb called my own crappy saxophone playing on my band's recording well, kind of crappy, in not so many words. (I don't remember exactly what he said, but he gave an honest appraisal of a sub-standard performance.) There's sycophantic nice-nice crap everywhere. This is refreshing. Even if I liked Nickelback, I think I'd find it so. Nice work Gross.
I've been all over the country, and I have never seen a more hateful and unsupportive music scene than Boise. There is more shit-talking than actual music. It's people like Mr. Gross here that keep big acts from coming here. The last town I lived in has about 8% of the population of Boise, I've seen Queens of the Stone Age, Marilyn Manson, Chevelle, Willie Nelson, Lacuna Coil, Ten Years, and Nine Inch Nails. Among the shows I missed are Tori Amos, Pearl Jam, Tom Waits, Ween (twice), Elton John (twice in one year), and the Rolling Stones. The fact that so many people are joining in this hatefulness reflects what is wrong with this area, almost everyone here is lazy until they are called upon to complain. To be clear, I can't stand Nickelback. But heaven forbid Boise gets an event that might help the anemic economy. By the way Mr. Gross, that town I recently came from that is less than 1/10 the population of this area, has an independent publication same as yours, weekly and free to the reader. The difference is that the publication has 6 times the content that yours does. Comparatively, BW is a flyer, not a newspaper. Nickelback are whiny little bitches and if they saw this article, they wouldn't play here. Rightly so, if all you can do is whine, and whine on such an epic level (probably because you've had no success as a musician) that they feel you would beat them in that contest. Maybe if you weren't such a crysack, some real musicians would emerge in Boise.
Josh Gross needs a raise!
I need to find this Josh Gross and buy him a beer.
Funny as hell!! (The fact that it has some people's knickers in a twist adds to my amusement.)
The promotor complains that "this type of journalism makes it much harder to bring in acts" like Nickelback.
Isn't that the point?
If you're into music, it's pretty easy these days to find out what shows are coming up. There are these things called "advertisements" which provide the names of acts that have been booked. These "ads," as they're sometimes called, usually also tell you what date the concert will occur. In addition, promoters can buy separate ads that take up a quarter-page (or even an entire page) in alternative weeklies, to ensure that as many people as possible know about the upcoming show. If Nickelback is indeed as successful as some folks are implying, I would think they'd be able to afford a little advertising.
Oh, and these ads also can be bought to run on the radio, and even during TV shows. Sometimes the TV people are so eager to get "exclusive" interviews with band members that they'll give the acts free air time -- before they come to town!
So many options to promote these acts! Who cares if someone like Josh Gross (who wrote a hilarious piece) slams bands like Nickelback. If that's all it takes to keep people from buying tickets, then they must not be very good.
Dear Good Effort,
When you try to be a jerk about proper format, please be sure to use the correct homonym. I believe you meant WRITE, not right....right?
This writeup is blowin' up! Nice job creating a new meme :)
Not a lot of entertainment options? Maybe you should move where there are some, Jake. Or maybe the promoter could make more money buying failed mortgages or scalping sporting event tickets. Because he's not a "dipshit" for bringing them in—he's just looking to make some bank the way a Wisconsin TV station takes Citizens United money.
See this isn't an issue of "Josh vs. Nickleback" as far as I see it.
Nickleback will play your back yard if you pay them enough. It comes down to the local promoter who needs ticket sales to ensure that he makes back what he invested to bring them in.
So yeah, Nickleback probably doesn't care that you're writing this. They'll just shrug it off and continue to sip champagne in their mansions. It's the local guy you're screwing over because you're basically saying "You're a dipshit for bringing them in"
and, maybe they are from an artistic standpoint, but to them a lot of times it all comes back to numbers.
Nickleback, whether you like them or hate them, draws a crowd to their shows, no matter what is written about them.
Why waste your time ruining your relationship with people giving your community some form of entertainment when you can give the space to an act or show who you feel more needs the space to promote what they're bringing in.
Where I'm from unfortunately we don't have a lot of entertainment options. We're not a big city so if one promoter leaves town, that leaves a big hole. So yeah, I personally wouldn't write a long, congratulatory piece on Nickleback, but I would do enough so the promoter didn't feel like I was enticing him to never come here again.
Is this a review of the concert? That's a slippery slope my friend if this is meant to be an article.
You might not like Nickleback, but you know, some people do. I'm not a promoter, but I do write about concerts and shows for a living for a newspaper.
My belief has always been, while I might not like a show, other people likely do or else why would they be bringing this here? And, furthermore, by just trashing a show before it comes all but ruins the relationship you have with promoters in your area. Now, this doesn't mean you have to write how awesome every concert is that comes through. No, but you can be fair and present the facts without saying how you like or dislike it.
By doing this, which yeah, it IS funny, it's telling the promoter that you can't be trusted to help them get the word out about any of their future shows. Who knows, maybe they might bring in a band you like someday. You don't know, but now it won't matter because they're not going to let you even know they're coming.
So, my point is while a promoter doesn't always bring in acts you like, they're bringing them in, spending their money to get them here and deserve the same kind of respect and fairness that you give everyone else, until they prove otherwise.
It might be worth mentioning that the main Nickelback fans are folks that haven't put a lot of effort into searching for music. If you don't go out of your way to look for music, Nickelback will find you, on the radio, public places, etc. It's catchy since it's less technical and with your narrowed horizons you don't realize that it's about as dumbed down of a musical experience as you can get, they become your favorite band, and you pay for it out of pocket at the stadium instead of with your time that you could've used looking for something better, and with tools like internet radio that suggests new music to you being widely and freely available there's less excuses than ever for being in the situation. This is the root of this ancient argument, if you truly want to help those who don't know where to start maybe push them in the right direction, otherwise you are trolling those who don't know any better, intentionally or unintentionally as it may be.
i'd like my nickle back
I think it's great that a local music writer is being honest and not going along with what the promoters and record companies want him to say. The fact of the matter is that Nickelback sucks worse than any band ever has. Great job, Josh!
This is an awesome article. I don't see him dissing the band but instead offering a better alternative for spending your money. :) For those that are paying for this concert I can only hope its to see Buch and My Darkest Days. (Sorry Seether, you are just a Nickelback knock off) At least they paired Nickelback with some decent bands and you can always leave once they have played.
I'm a weekend section editor. Weekend or going-out sections work differently from the rest of the newspaper, in that our job is to inform the reader of things that we believe are best bets for the weekend. So by including something in our section, we're basically endorsing that event. It's worthy enough of the write-up.
To me, this write-up (while admittedly awesome) seems to have been just a reason for the writer to take shots at Nickelback. And I agree that there's too much monopoly in the music world and indie artists need more press, but you're denying an indie artist press by including Nickelback, like them or not.
End of the day, if you don't like Nickelback and don't think your readers should be subjected to them, don't write up an advance on them.
Mr Promoter: I know nothing about you or the fine work I am sure you do, but I live in southern Utah and am aware of this concert only because of this article. If "the job" is to make everyone aware of the upcoming concert, hands down, consider it done.
That being said-it was a hilarious tongue in cheek fresh way to read a journalist's opinion. I am confident enough to admit I do enjoy a Nickelback song or two, but I can also appreciate the humor behind this article. Good Job Josh-not that you require my approval.
Also, I will put out the disclaimer to all that if I missed any typos, forgive me. Sometimes my smart phone is more special than smart.
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