I don't buy into the self-righteous indignation fire that has been fanned by a few, and consumed a community. Yes, Zachary's death changed things, yes it was f#cking inconvenient for all of us who loved him and CJ. Zack wasn't the money behind the event, and the investor(s) made hard decisions after his passing. In the words of Kurt Vonnegut: So it goes.
That anyone who loved Zack & CJ would cry so hard about money (that will probably be lost on this first MASSV event) is the mark of jealousy of perhaps an individual or two that imagine they are going to miss out on some eggs that haven't even hatched yet. Excuse me? Is your name Zack or CJ peterson? No? That's what I thought, so STFU.
I'm going to have to side with Spock on this one. Yes, the fictional character from Star Trek, who believed that the good of the majority (The music scene in Idaho—terribly undernourished and just now catching a glimmer of hope after Treefort) is more important than the individual (the one or three collaborators with Dark Psyence who tagged after Zack and freely accepted CJ's monetary investments in Dark Psyence).
I personally have recorded in my memory Zack and CJ's immortal attitude of, "F#ck it. Let's have fun and shoot for the stars!"
For those who don't believe in that dream, I am truly sorry.
If you ask around, most of the people who knew Zack and CJ... their close friends... will not be attending MASSV. This is because those of us who knew them understood the vision. Sure, I would LOVE to see Beats Antique and Ghostland Observatory, but refuse to put a single dollar into the pockets of those who are undeserving. This whole thing, afterall, is all about money. Zack and CJ were HUGE parts of the community they were a part of, and are missed dearly.
If BW wanted to get the real story on MASSV, they would actually talk to the people in the Boise EDM scene. Then, they would find that what really happened in the wake of Zack and CJ's deaths is beyond slimy. Zack's family DID tell him he was crazy. Because they couldn't care less about the work he was doing. Colleen didn't read his email at first? That's because anybody who knew Zack knew what he thought about his sister. And it wasn't good. The whole sentiment that this festival is continuing on "in their memory" is a joke. The idea in Zack's mind was an EDM festival. Not what MASSV has become. Everything he worked for was hijacked from the people that truly knew him and were helping him achieve his dream. And they did it for money. Threats, disrespect, and just plain old greed that will never come to light, were their tools. But let's just pretend that this is a good thing for Idaho. The actions of a few have fractured an entire community. And if BW would do their research, they would find a litany of The Peterson's friends that are simply disgusted with the whole thing.
Awesome article. Can't wait for MASSV!
All I have say is you have this story completely wrong. Good luck to Zack and CJs families, hope this works out for you.
I had to follow up with this after some time had passed.
By writing 150 words Joss Gross went viral around the internet - and he did so in a way that generated a very large amount of praise as well as negative critisism - That is awesome. Most journalists will never achieve this. While this isn't a career maker by any means, it's certainly a boon. All of this happened because he humourly, and cleaverly, expressed his opinion about a relatively trivial subject which created strongly polarized opinions.
Everyone has an opinion about a band. Few have their opinion go virtal.
Regardless of my opinion on Nickleback, I apreciate this piece. It's truly a work of art.
I eagerly look forward to more writing from Josh Gross. :-)
This is a pretty bad review...
Wow, Josh Gross, you're a moron. You've had absolutely no success whatsoever. You are a hack that has to put stories in a flyer sized newspaper. It's amazing that nobody's like you have the audacity to criticize successful, creative people such as Nickelback, when you have absolutely nothing going for you. When you make dumb comments like you have then you are not only speaking to Nickelback but also to the millions and millions of fans they have worldwide. You are an idiot and you will continue to sit behind your desk smoking 2 packs of cigs per day, shaving every 3rd day and continuing to be a nobody that will never do anything significant in your life because you lack the brains, creativity, or talent to do anything.
Meatloaf is certainly self-aware...whoever that "self" may be.
Nice article, but two points of clarification:
Uncle Tupelo was based in Belleville, Illinois. That's in the southern part of the state, near St. Louis, not in the Chicago area. (Tweedy moved to Chicago after UT called it quits.)
Wilcobase.com is a database of all Wilco concerts. Viachicago.org is the online fan community for Wilco fans.
a guy did something similar in Little Rock, I believe for the same band, and actually lost his job because of it. The venue had been advertising with the weekly newspaper for years and decided to pull all advertising from future papers. whoops.
The First Amendment allows you and myself to appreciate all comments whether we agree or not. Its journalism and its subjective. Whether its Boise, LA, Seattle, NY, I dont care; the fact is, if you dont like the opinion, ignore it. Dont like Jerry Springer? Turn the channel. Dont like something? Change the fucking channel. Its an opinion, we all have them.
Just have to say.... liking the band or not.... the whole show was pretty awesome. One of the best I've seen in a while. Nickleback included. Four bands for $45 isn't a bad price.... infact, where can you go get entertained for FIVE hours for that cheap?! Oh... and having Gavin Rossdale run around IN the croud, touching people?! WEELLLLLLL worth the money!!!!! Not a fan of your article. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I do respect that... but the next time you want to bag on something/someone... try to have some class about it.
To all of you that are here to defend the Nickelbackers, I hate to give this any attention but hey, I got 5 mins to kill, let me say this:
Nickelback lyrics sound like something a 16 year old would write. They are the kind of lyrics that SHOULD have been written by a 16 year old, and not just because they suggest having sex with minors but also just because they are simply unoriginal and obviously written with a young audience in mind.
I'm driving past your house while you were sneaking out
I got the car door opened up so you can jump in on the run
Your mom don't know that you were missing
She'd be pissed if she could see the parts of you that I've been kissing
Chad Kroeger was Born November 15, 1974 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Kroeger
The song was released November 8, 2005 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_%28Ni…
...which makes him 31 when the song was released. Seriously, (probably 30 when he wrote it as this was a song from their 5th studio record which means it was probably new material) should a 30+ year old man be singing about having sex with a teenager who snuck out of her mom’s house?
Please remember that this is just an example, there are many more. Feel free to check it out yourselves.
really enjoyed it. reminds me the reviews I would read in Creem in the 80's.
"Last I checked in journalism standards you do not start a sentence with a dollar sign. Spell it out. If you're going to try and be the cool guy and right something like this, please do not make yourself look stupid by not knowing AP Style."
Last I checked, it was spelled "write." Please do not make yourself look stupid by correcting someone's mistake, while making a much larger and more blatant one in the process.
That is all.
My one regret (well, one of several) is that I didn't see Richman when he appeared at my college in the early 1980s. I enjoy both his very early stuff ("I'm Straight") and his subsequent songs ("I'm a little airplane NOW!").
What a Gross assessment by Josh. Nickelback's Chad Kroeger is not only more handsome than Josh but is much more talented. Josh's middle name is mostly likely "Looks". What a turd.
I always find it funny that whenever someone has a negative opinion about some hack musician, the first thing people (the bands fans) say is "But look how much money they make, they must be good". This statement is the embodiment of why bands like Nickelback (unfortunately) do so well. Radio stations play the crap out of it and everyone thinks they are bajillionaires so teen boys buy their music cause they haven't developed their own opinions yet and the band makes their ill gotten gains. Glad to see a journalist speak their mind.
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