Have any of you spent any time on the corner of fifth and Elgin in Caldwell, or the neighborhoods surrounding? I grew up there, and I wouldn't go over there if every show was free. You have no idea what you are getting into. I hope you have a lot of money to spend on security and plan on spending a lot of time talking with the police about the problems inside and outside of your venue. It has nothing to do with the drive, and everything to do with the location. Absolutely ridiculous move for these people. They have no idea what they are doing, none.
the problem is Club and bar owners, have no idea how promote or manage their venues.. Most of trust funders who have no worth.. Most the acts that come to boise a sub rate.. And there are no true adult only venus.. with good music.. Boise seems to like bands like black tooth grin..
there is no quality jazz, house music, underground hip hop, venus in boise.. and that sucks.. thus these people think a bigger venue is better... how about being up close and personal to an artist or band... In a nice bar or club. where people understand how to manage, the vibe.. rather than over priced drinks.. kids running around.. and being over packed. Boise has a lot to learn.. no to mention Cops being out in force to tax anyone downtown having fun..
Are sprinklers already installed in the new venue?
you are a dick
James Orr is a genius! He is the Chuck Norris of Boise. You should go back to scrubbing your shower tile with a live kitten in each hand, or whatever evil it was that you were up to.
"I really want to see that band but the drive to Boise is just TOO much for me to handle." Said no Caldwell kid, ever.
Jason Macomber moving away proves the point that the angry white male market is diminishing here...but apparently Tacoma is attracting pissed off Caucasians like crazy.
Good luck to The Venue in Caldwell.
Can we agree on one thing? Aren't we ALL glad that Jason Macomber moved to Tacoma?!!? Go Jason!
I am so glad I moved from Boise. Go Tacoma, WA. Idaho is a pit. 13 years of sh%$t.
I'll add one more comment about the new location. For someone who lives in NW Boise, Chinden road becomes Highway 20-26 just west of town, and makes a straight line due west to Caldwell, meeting I-84 just one mile from the 10th street exit. I think you'll be surprised that the drive to the new location will only take 20 minutes, about 5 minutes longer than the drive to the far side of downtown Boise. For anyone living near I-84, the Meridian exit is roughly the dividing line: if you live to the west of Meridian road, you'll get to the new location faster than the old. We live east of the Gowen road exit (past Broadway) and we were very surprised that our commute to the new location takes only 30 minutes, due to the immediate proximity of 424 E Elgin to the freeway. That's only ten minutes longer than our present commute down Federal Way to Broadway. The touring bands we've talked to are excited about this new location as it's right off the freeway, and they won't have to navigate with trailers or buses into downtown Boise and the narrow city streets around the old neighborhood. We're confident that once people take this new drive once, they'll realize how quick and easily assessible it really is.
Mr. Gross's article (as well as Mr. Deed's article in the Statesman) did a great job of explaining the reasons for this move, so my comments are just to clarify what has been posted by others. The Boise Weekly is not at fault for the move, and they did not raise our rent. Because of the location within 300 feet of a school (Concordia law) and the cost of putting in fire sprinklers, we could not expand The Venue in its current location. And it needed to expand. As Josh alluded to, the current business model is unsustainable, and we could not continue to fund The Venue's operating costs out of our personal income. For Brian, yes, the angry white male thing was tongue in cheek, part of a larger comment about how Mitt Romney learned what happens when you cater to only one demographic. We're just as excited about opening shows for the Latino community as we are about continuing to put on shows for our existing audience, angry or not. Johann Claus.
LOL! And then I accidentally misnamed the author of the piece. Mea culpa, Andrew.
Martin, you've accidentally switched the names of the two artists you're referring to in the band. (This same error is made on Pandora's profile of Hey Marseilles.) The lead singer is Matt Bishop, and the guitarist is Nick Ward.
James Orr is Not. A. Real. Musician. Looping is not an art. It is a sloppy way to pass free time while contemplating what a sad Hipster life you have. Im sick of seeing his face. He is in the Boise Weekly every issue and quite frankly, isnt even nice to look at.
I'm going to go ahead and man up and use my real name - Brian Rich - since I was quoted in the article, and because I'm not down with anonymous trashing.
I'm going to entertain the idea of driving to Caldwell for the right show because I want to support the Boise music scene. Err, the Treasure Valley music scene. That said, I never drive to the Idaho Center 1. because it's 40 miles from my damn house and 2. because every act there sucks. But that's beside the point, the Idaho Center is a monstrous venue because they bring the mainstream crap that mainstream people enjoy. The same music that so offensively panders to people that it allows places like the Boise Venue to thrive, due to loyalty from the alternative scene.
I always love going to Venue shows for two reasons - first, it's a show I like (60 percent) and second, it's a venue I love (40 percent). No one goes to the Idaho Center because of the culture of the Idaho Center, I can tell you that much. And they don't go there for the acoustics, either (it's as bad as the CenturyLink Arena). They go there because they heard some crap on the radio that costs $30,000 to book live and the only way Idaho can afford those shows is by booking them in the middle of nowhere to avoid costly property taxes and other fees. There's no scene and there's no loyalty. It's for the light beer and pop music. That kind of venue is just as whorish as the music within it.
Places like the Boise Venue are the exact opposite and thrive on being part of a community's fabric. The House of Rock is a great example of this. In the "real" music scene (where musicians actually write and perform their own music), being part of the scene is just as important as the beer or the acts you book. And that's what's really at stake here - the Boise Venue is ripping a hole in the Boise music scene and transplanting itself, hoping it will find its way into a new scene and a new culture. And that's fine, but don't pretend you'll take Boise's alternative scene out to Caldwell with you.
Lastly, I'm going to assume that the "angry white male" comment was a tongue-in-cheek joke (lost in print, as they all are), so I'll let it slide. But as a very happy, 30-year-old married white male who lives in Boise and has been performing at local venues since I took the stage in Bogey's Battle of the Bands at 15, I can tell you this isn't about suburban white teen angst. This is about the music community, and without the Boise Venue downtown, part of it is going to die in a big way -- that is, until someone else replaces you in the Boise community and memories of the Venue start to fade.
Best of luck in Caldwell. I'll see you when Animals as Leaders comes through.
@ boise White Male, With a better sound system. Just let them do what they are gonna do, not like its money out of your pocket or anything.
And, I think its funny that boise weekly did this article in the first place, considering the boise weekly is their landlord, and from what I understand, they have been been making it almost financially impossible for the the venue to pay its rent by raising the rent to ridiculous levels. SO really, everyone has the boise weekly to thank for the move.
Cool this sounds like the knitting factory part 2. Close your venue you fucking idiots
Does every band on 1332 Records have a song called "Twice the Evil"?
It's a great record...all the best to these guys!
Way to take it with poise, Mitch! Treefort, you're my hero!
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