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This week on The Breakthrough, we spoke to The New York Times’ Michael Schmidt and Mark Mazzetti, who — along with their colleague Matt Apuzzo — detailed the contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian intelligence. They talked to us about how they find anonymous sources, what they do to confirm the information, and whether reporting under these circumstances is really different under the Trump administration.

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Enjoy the podcast and want more? Dive deeper into this week’s episode:

- Read Apuzzo, Schmidt and Mazzetti’s story in The New York Times.

- Read a similar story by CNN, which also used unnamed administration to confirm Trump’s campaign had “constant contact” with Russian intelligence.

- Take a look at a timeline of the fall of National Security Advisor Mike Flynn from The Washington Post.

- Read New York Times Public Editor Liz Spayd’s take on the use of unnamed sources.

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