Hillary Wins New Hamshire!

[McGyver]

You Go Girl!'

So much for listening to Polls and Pundits! :D



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[JIMV]

Got to admit, no one knows squat about this race. The media is consistent wrong.

[McGyver]

I Love It! What I think happened is what I think is going to happen from now on in this Race, and that is that "The American People" will decide WHO their Next President of The United States is THIS TIME, NOT the media or the Stupid Talking Heads!

Hillary has already made History with this win in New Hampshire.

Hillary's acceptance speech was gracious as she acknowledged both John Edwards and Senator Obama....Would have been nice if each of them had been equally gracious when they beat her.

What I really love, is the fact that so many Overly Testosteroned Republican Men will be Jerking and Twitching and scratching they're fat bellies and bald heads trying to figure out "just what happened!" :D



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[lenny]

Don't forget all the anti-war left-leaning men and women who are incredibly disappointed by this as well.

[Erika]

The males derided her after she teared up about her concern for the country saying she was weak.

This same media talked about how caring Romney was for crying three times in the last month.

[Erika]

LMAO. He said he just followed the pundits (all male) and couldn't understand how wrong they could be. When his female guest brought up how the male media had derided Clinton for tearing up, he acted like a two year old. He buttonned his jacket and folded his arms. I thought he was going to stick his thumb in his mouth.

[NuclearShadows]

Hillary and Obama are both still warmongers. They may fight future wars with different reasons than Bush has, but they will still drop cluster bombs on woman, children and old men in a heartbeat with their own set of justifications…

[lenny]

I strongly believe that the type of men who wouldn't vote for a woman because of gender are religious conservatives who vote Republican. Sure, it's likely there are some men who regularly vote Democratic who might have sexist tendencies but I don't see them being a factor in the Democratic Primary. The significant gender bias in the Democratic primaries strongly favors Clinton. Just my opinion anyway....

[McGyver]

Hillary and Obama are both still warmongers. They may fight future wars with different reasons than Bush has, but they will still drop cluster bombs on woman, children and old men in a heartbeat with their own set of justifications…

I believe your comment above is a "bit over the top," and that is too bad, because it is broad sweeping comments like the one above that serves to give ALL Peace Activists the label of "Nutcases," and gives your adversaries a reason to make your cause irrelavent.

I do not believe for a moment that either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama are warmongers. To me a warmonger is someone who is anxious to go to war; who seeks out war, and encourages people or a nation to go to war. A warmonger SELLS war....In all fairness, Neither of these two people fit that description.

George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, Donald Rumsfeld "SOLD" this war to the American people....who, I might add, bought it hook line and sinker! THEY are your Warmongers. Did Senator Clinton do enough to try to prevent this war? Perhaps not, but that does not make her a Warmonger, in my opinion, and you only serve to diminish and hurt your cause with your broad brush strokes of undeserved name calling. IMHO!



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[lenny]

In the spirit of accuracy perhaps I could throw in the terms "aspiring warmonger" or "warmonger wannabe?" And certainly in the case of Hillary we could add "warmonger enabler."

[NuclearShadows]

I believe your comment above is a "bit over the top," and that is too bad, because it is broad sweeping comments like the one above that serves to give ALL Peace Activists the label of "Nutcases," and gives your adversaries a reason to make your cause irrelavent.

I do not believe for a moment that either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama are warmongers. To me a warmonger is someone who is anxious to go to war; who seeks out war, and encourages people or a nation to go to war. A warmonger SELLS war....In all fairness, Neither of these two people fit that description.

George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, Donald Rumsfeld "SOLD" this war to the American people....who, I might add, bought it hook line and sinker! THEY are your Warmongers. Did Senator Clinton do enough to try to prevent this war? Perhaps not, but that does not make her a Warmonger, in my opinion, and you only serve to diminish and hurt your cause with your broad brush strokes of undeserved name calling. IMHO!



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so why aren't any of them talking about getting out of Afghanistan?
They spend time telling us to shut down Guantanamo but never mention Bagram Theater Internment Facility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagram_Theater_Internment_Facility) which has twice as many prisoners in it and from the accounts of former detainees, military officials and soldiers who served there, a picture emerges of a place that is in many ways rougher and more bleak than its counterpart in Cuba. (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/26/international/26bagram.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) They just helped authorize the funding to expand it...

Want peace?
Prove it. (http://www.dennis4president.com/home/)

[McGyver]

so why aren't any of them talking about getting out of Afghanistan?
They spend time telling us to shut down Guantanamo but never mention Bagram Theater Internment Facility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagram_Theater_Internment_Facility) which has twice as many prisoners in it and from the accounts of former detainees, military officials and soldiers who served there, a picture emerges of a place that is in many ways rougher and more bleak than its counterpart in Cuba. (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/26/international/26bagram.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) They just helped authorize the funding to expand it...

Want peace?
Prove it. (http://www.dennis4president.com/home/)

OK....So now are you telling me that anyone who does not speak out about getting out of Afghanistan is a warmonger too?

My only objection to your initial post was the fact that you called Clinton and Obama "Warmongers"....which by definition is untrue.

I have no problem with you stating anything that's true about either of these candidates, especially Senator Clinton, because I too was more than a little pissed that she signed on this give Bush ( a Known Idiot) the authority to attack "any" country. But to say that she and Obama "sold" the war or even "sought out" war is simply Untrue.

Want advocates for peace? Tone down the "wild eyed" rhetoric, as it turns people off to your most worthy cause. Just my suggestion.



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[NuclearShadows]

My only objection to your initial post was the fact that you called Clinton and Obama "Warmongers"....which by definition is untrue.******************************************

war·mon·ger
noun
a person who advocates, endorses, or tries to precipitate war.

[NuclearShadows]

Want advocates for peace? Tone down the "wild eyed" rhetoric, as it turns people off to your most worthy cause. Just my suggestion.

Maybe you're right.
Maybe I should save my limited energy and sit down.
Wouldn't want to stress anyone out and turn people off by too much rhetoric. (http://library.thinkquest.org/C0125481/gandhienglish/dandi.html)

[McGyver]

Maybe you're right.
Maybe I should save my limited energy and sit down.
Wouldn't want to stress anyone out and turn people off by too much rhetoric. (http://library.thinkquest.org/C0125481/gandhienglish/dandi.html)

No one said anything about not wanting to "stress" anyone out. My only point was that when you call Everyone who does not agree with your "total anti war" beliefs a "Warmonger" you lessen the "worthiness" of your cause. You give credence to your adversaries who call ALL Peace Activists "Nutcases." All I'm saying is....You need advocates, not more adversaries. Therefore, make sure that only truth is spoken. There are already enough Liars on the "other side." (The REAL Warmongers!)



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[NuclearShadows]

No one said anything about not wanting to "stress" anyone out. My only point was that when you call Everyone who does not agree with your "total anti war" beliefs a "Warmonger" you lessen the "worthiness" of your cause. You give credence to your adversaries who call ALL Peace Activists "Nutcases." All I'm saying is....You need advocates, not more adversaries. Therefore, make sure that only truth is spoken. There are already enough Liars on the "other side." (The REAL Warmongers!)



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Now you are calling me a liar?
Huh...
If you vote for war funding you are voting for war.
Seems pretty simple to me.
Obama and Hillary fund the war effort.
Saying they are against the war makes them the nutcases...