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lenny
01-09-2008, 01:36 PM
This story came out over the weekend. It's rather huge and all.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137695.ece

Some commentary...

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/9/25013/41212/822/433439

McGyver
01-09-2008, 01:59 PM
Don't have time to do more than skim the articles right now, but wow....can't wait to see where this leads!

lenny
01-09-2008, 02:05 PM
That's what one of the questions was I think. Now that the actual details are starting to come out might it actually get some traction from the Mainstream press over here? Seems like so long ago when they put the gag order on her, but it was always in the back of my mind. This is a BIG story.

Bruce McAuley
01-09-2008, 03:20 PM
All the way back to the BCCI scandal.
And what family do you think ties all the loose ends together?
It begins with a B.:eek:
Money, illegal guns, illegal nuclear technology, laundering money, blackmail, strange deaths, etc, etc.
The usual for the BFEE.

Bruce

lenny
01-09-2008, 04:33 PM
All the way back to the BCCI scandal.
And what family do you think ties all the loose ends together?
It begins with a B.:eek:
Money, illegal guns, illegal nuclear technology, laundering money, blackmail, strange deaths, etc, etc.
The usual for the BFEE.

Bruce

Which "B" you talkin' bout Bruce? Bush or Bin Laden? :confused: :) :D

NuclearShadows
01-09-2008, 05:35 PM
I have been surprised for years that we haven't seen a headline informing us she died in an apparent suicide...
:rolleyes:

Bruce McAuley
01-09-2008, 05:48 PM
Which "B" you talkin' bout Bruce? Bush or Bin Laden? :confused: :)
I notice neither Bin Laden nor Bush are in jail yet, if indeed Bin Laden is still alive. I suspect he's been dead for a couple years but they keep bringing up videos of him, like an old Disney Animatron...:eek:
The Boogeyman, we gotta have one. We can't let him die yet...:cool:

Bruce

NuclearShadows
01-09-2008, 06:09 PM
I notice neither Bin Laden nor Bush are in jail yet, if indeed Bin Laden is still alive. I suspect he's been dead for a couple years but they keep bringing up videos of him, like an old Disney Animatron...:eek:
The Boogeyman, we gotta have one. We can't let him die yet...:cool:

Bruce

I thought Ahmedinejad is the new boogeyman???

lenny
01-09-2008, 06:25 PM
Did you guys hear the audio from the video release of the naval encounter with the Iranian speed boat?

I'm coming to get yooouuuuuu!!!...........You will exploooooooode!!!!

WTF was that horseshit?

Found it. (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=5884810&ch=4226714&src=news)

NuclearShadows
01-30-2008, 07:26 AM
New interview

Sibel Edmonds: 'Buckle Up, There's Much More Coming' (http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/75351/)

Bruce McAuley
01-30-2008, 09:29 AM
And George Junior is giving the Bomb to Turkey.
Nothing to worry about here, Citizens!:rolleyes:

Bruce

lenny
01-30-2008, 10:54 AM
Good interview NS. A week or so ago I read an article (http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/01/16/6523/) about this by Daniel Ellsberg. In it he asks and wonders if in today's day and age the New York Times would even consider printing the Pentagon Papers? I'm a bit of a cynic (realist?) so my answer would be an immediate "no chance", but I thought this part of her interview you linked to touched on that a bit.

"With the US media, it appears as though if there is no clear partisan angle, then there's no story. As you know, this case is spread over two administrations, and that appears to make it difficult for the reporters to cover the story. Even within one news organization you might have one journalist who wants to use the story to indict Clinton, and another who wants to use the story to bash Bush, and in the end neither of them write about the story because it doesn't fit their partisanship, their 'narrative', so they just drop it altogether.

I had such high hopes for the alternative press, and they do a lot of good work, but partisanship repeatedly gets in the way there too, on both sides.

The US media also suffers from a pack mentality. I was told by one executive that they weren't doing the story because it was 'old news' because 60 Minutes/i> did a single segment in October 2002, even though they only covered a tiny part of the case. This executive literally told me that he'd only cover the story if it was 'hot and sexy.' I often think that I'd need to be able to hire Britney Spears to be a spokesperson -- and this is not just for my case, but for any of the many other solid, important cases at the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition Apparently this is what it would take to get any coverage."

It's funny if you think about it. Sibel Edmonds could literally call Britney Spears and say "you want to get the press off your back? Come work for me as my spokesperson and I guarantee you'll never be bothered again." Just think about that and your "free" press, and how mind-blowingly ridiculous everything is today.

NuclearShadows
01-30-2008, 02:17 PM
It's funny if you think about it. Sibel Edmonds could literally call Britney Spears and say "you want to get the press off your back? Come work for me as my spokesperson and I guarantee you'll never be bothered again." Just think about that and your "free" press, and how mind-blowingly ridiculous everything is today.

pretty funny if it wasn't so true...