Voters voting for Democrats in primaries outnumber republican voters 2 to 1

[Old Round Guy]

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1707063,00.html

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As the Super Tuesday mother lode of primaries and caucuses fast approaches, both the Democratic and Republican races for the presidential nomination are equally tight, with no clear front-runner emerging for either party. Most hypothetical matches for the general election are looking similarly close. But so far in at least one key respect, the Democrats are clearly beating their G.O.P. counterparts: voter turnout.

Voters are showing up at Democratic primaries and caucuses in record numbers, doubling, tripling or even quadrupling the turnout totals recorded in the last fully contested two-party election in 2000. Overall, Democrats have so far outnumbered Republicans at primary polling places by a rate of almost two to one.

So far three states have held primaries or caucuses that both parties actively contested, and in each, Democratic turnout is outrunning participation by Republicans:

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[McGyver]

Exactly right. And THAT is a BIG reason why Democrats will win in 2008! I've had this discussion with JimV many times on this forum and the old forum.

The Republicans are just "not excited" about any of their candidates! Plus, they are Pissed with how their Party has squandered the power and control that they had for all of these years. Not to mention, how this Administration has dragged the name Republican thru the mud for the past seven years and made the word "Republican" synonymous with "The Culture of Corruption." Therefore, they really don't give a poop who wins!

The Democrats on the other hand are thrilled with ALL of their Candidates, and therefore, I believe this trend will continue up to election day and we will FINALLY get a Democrat back into the Whitehouse! One who cares more about the American People than they do about War, and Millionaires!

Oh Happy Day!

[Erika]

than total votes were cast in the last primary.

More than 150,000 Blacks registered to vote for the first time in this primary.

[Knowle of 4U]

than total votes were cast in the last primary.

More than 150,000 Blacks registered to vote for the first time in this primary.

Erika, I'm surprised to read you suggesting that Obama won solely because of the black votes. I'm so tired of this slant that Obama is the "black" candidate, he's half white for criminy sakes! Also blacks are not a monolithic voting block, just as latino's are not monolithic.

[Erika]

Neither am I. Obama's base includes Blacks, just as Hillary's includes whites.

He has been able to energize Blacks to vote for the first time. In SC he got 24% of the White vote. Interestingly, he got 52% of the White vote in those under the age of 30.

[JIMV]

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1707063,00.html

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As the Super Tuesday mother lode of primaries and caucuses fast approaches, both the Democratic and Republican races for the presidential nomination are equally tight, with no clear front-runner emerging for either party. Most hypothetical matches for the general election are looking similarly close. But so far in at least one key respect, the Democrats are clearly beating their G.O.P. counterparts: voter turnout.

Voters are showing up at Democratic primaries and caucuses in record numbers, doubling, tripling or even quadrupling the turnout totals recorded in the last fully contested two-party election in 2000. Overall, Democrats have so far outnumbered Republicans at primary polling places by a rate of almost two to one.

So far three states have held primaries or caucuses that both parties actively contested, and in each, Democratic turnout is outrunning participation by Republicans:

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That is not completely straight. The dem turnout in SC was 90K more than the republican one but that was still only about a 20% advantage. They are also not counting places like Michigan where the republican turnout was many times the democrat but the dems decided not to play there officially. I expect the same thing in Florida next week, a massive republican turnout and a marginal one for the dems as the dems are punishing florida for ignoring them.

[JIMV]

than total votes were cast in the last primary.

More than 150,000 Blacks registered to vote for the first time in this primary.

Will they stay home in disgust if Hillary gets the nomination? No one knows.

[Erika]

Would keep the Blacks enfranchised, plus get the majority of women of all colors.

[JIMV]

Could be, but I don't see how the two could manage it as they hate each other. More likely Edwards will throw his support to Obama (they get along great) and you end up with Obama/Edwards with the Hag left out. All they lose that way is the angry, stupid female vote and that cannot be all that large.

[Erika]

Women want to see Hillary is treated fairly. Republican and Democrat women.

[JIMV]

No, they want to see her treated special, as in with kid gloves.

[freewolf46]

I doubt Hillary would ever let Obama even close to her administration. She hates him more than she hates any Republican. Additionally, I don't care how far people think the country has come, I would be willing to bet that with Hillary's background and years in Arkansas, that she wouldn't even let him use the same bathroom as her. I would be more than willing to bet that in the privacy around the kitchen table at the Clinton's house, (so to speak), that the n word has gotten quite a bit of use this past year.

[GUS]

I do not believe Hillary hates Obama. Hate is not a trait that is terribly common in intelligent college educated people. It would be hard not to be aware that hate has become common among so many vocal religious groups. We all see hate as a bi-product of the FOX Media. Hillary on the other hand is not a hateful REPUBLICAN! Hillary has lived in areas that are real melting pots. It would be unusual for someone with Hillary's background NOT to be close friends with people of different ethnic origins. Hillary has class and manners and I will bet finds cultural diversity to be a god send not something to be ridiculed or debased as is so common with those who have never been in positions of respect. Give her credit she had to be damn sharpe to have made it into the WHITE MAN'S Club-the senate.

I doubt Hillary would ever let Obama even close to her administration. She hates him more than she hates any Republican. Additionally, I don't care how far people think the country has come, I would be willing to bet that with Hillary's background and years in Arkansas, that she wouldn't even let him use the same bathroom as her. I would be more than willing to bet that in the privacy around the kitchen table at the Clinton's house, (so to speak), that the n word has gotten quite a bit of use this past year.

[Erika]

Like you said, hate is not a word in which they are comfortable. They've been under much wrath as a woman and a black.

[freewolf46]

I do not believe Hillary hates Obama. Hate is not a trait that is terribly common in intelligent college educated people. It would be hard not to be aware that hate has become common among so many vocal religious groups. We all see hate as a bi-product of the FOX Media. Hillary on the other hand is not a hateful REPUBLICAN! Hillary has lived in areas that are real melting pots. It would be unusual for someone with Hillary's background NOT to be close friends with people of different ethnic origins. Hillary has class and manners and I will bet finds cultural diversity to be a god send not something to be ridiculed or debased as is so common with those who have never been in positions of respect. Give her credit she had to be damn sharpe to have made it into the WHITE MAN'S Club-the senate.

Well that's your opinion and it is different from mine. The reasons you offer are that she went to college, that hate is common among other groups, and that she has lived in racially mixed areas. You may think that means something, but to me, I respectfully submit, my life experiences with people shows that none of these things have anything to do with real feelings that are politically corrected for the public and career successes, and are totally different in protected privacy. I've heard the jokes and comments of many a college educated person of both races.

And your last line -"Give her credit she had to be damn sharp" - I do. I give her credit for being Damn sharp.

[JIMV]

I do not believe Hillary hates Obama. Hate is not a trait that is terribly common in intelligent college educated people.

:rolleyes:

[McGyver]

Like you said, hate is not a word in which they are comfortable. They've been under much wrath as a woman and a black.

Absolutely Erika. Whoever the Democratic Candidate is, Both Senator Clinton and Senator Obama will fully support. Republicans would just love nothing better than to spread the word that Clinton hates Obama and Obama hates Clinton. And that is exactly the message they are all spreading out there!

This is a "Primary" Election People. They are opponents. They are both trying to win a contest! What some of these Republicans fail to comprehend, is that it "IS" possible to be an Opponent, and not feel vile hatred and disgust for your Opponent. Republicans havn't done that for many, many years. Republicans don't just want to win, they want to destroy/kill.

Remember what The Republican Party did to President Bill Clinton in the 90's, Remember what Bush did to McCain in 2000? Remember what they did to John Kerry and Max Clealand in 2004? Thankfully, Democrats do not have the same philosophy. That is one of the big differences to me. The American People who call themselves Democrats would NEVER stand for treating Opponents like that. At least I know I wouldn't!

So the next time you hear one of the Neocons saying how much Senators Obama and Clinton hate each other....Just consider the Source!



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[JIMV]

Actually, Obama and Edwards get along just fine. Anyone who crosses a Clinton has to watch their health and back.....

[McGyver]

Actually, Obama and Edwards get along just fine. Anyone who crosses a Clinton has to watch their health and back.....

Obviously, you have Senator Clinton confused with your Buddies Dumbya and Dickhead! Anyone who crosses THEM, has to watch not only THEIR backs, but the backs of the Wife and Children as well! They're the Same vindictive assholes who go so far as to "OUT" an Undercover CIA Agent, working on WMD in The War On Terror, just to get even with her husband, who called them the "Liars" that they are!



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[freewolf46]

Dumbya and Dickhead!





Just curious as to who these people are and how the names you use make a point valid or worth considering? I thought we agreed to raise the bar, not lower it.

[freewolf46]

Absolutely Erika. Whoever the Democratic Candidate is, Both Senator Clinton and Senator Obama will fully support.

Supporting the candidate of their party is not in question. Almost everyone will.
Republicans would just love nothing better than to spread the word that Clinton hates Obama and Obama hates Clinton. And that is exactly the message they are all spreading out there!
ALL is a pretty inclusive word. And I see no evidence of even quite a few Republicans saying they hate each other. I don't think Obama hates Hillary, but You won't convince me that she wouldn't like to see him have one of the accidents one of her and Bill's adversaries have had.

This is a "Primary" Election People. They are opponents. They are both trying to win a contest! What some of these Republicans fail to comprehend, is that it "IS" possible to be an Opponent, and not feel vile hatred and disgust for your Opponent. Republicans havn't done that for many, many years. Republicans don't just want to win, they want to destroy/kill.

Remember what The Republican Party did to President Bill Clinton in the 90's, Remember what Bush did to McCain in 2000? Remember what they did to John Kerry and Max Clealand in 2004? Thankfully, Democrats do not have the same philosophy. That is one of the big differences to me. The American People who call themselves Democrats would NEVER stand for treating Opponents like that. At least I know I wouldn't!

So the next time you hear one of the Neocons saying how much Senators Obama and Clinton hate each other....Just consider the Source!



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I disagree with your assessment of Republicans and also have to point out that you start out against Republicans and end with Neocons.

While it may be true that most Neocons are Republicans, it is far from reality that all Republicans are Neocons.

[NuclearShadows]

I disagree with your assessment of Republicans and also have to point out that you start out against Republicans and end with Neocons.

While it may be true that most Neocons are Republicans, it is far from reality that all Republicans are Neocons.
although the campfire of the neo-cons has mostly died down there still are lingering embers. We need to piss in the pit and put out the threat once and for all. I am just waiting for the other shoe to drop before Bush is out with some "attack on America", which I think will be manufactured, which will inflame the neo-cons again.

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[McGyver]

Just curious as to who these people are and how the names you use make a point valid or worth considering? I thought we agreed to raise the bar, not lower it.

Oh but we have "raised the bar" Freewolf. Female members of this forum are no longer called the "C" word! THAT alone raised the bar quite a bit in my opinion. However, last I checked there was No Rule against calling "Public Figures" horses asses, or whatever. JimV admits this: "I have consistently called Kennedy an old drunk and lech. I have called Bill C about every non profane name in the book. I have called Biden 'Babling Biden' with great regularity. I have called Jesse Jackson and Sharpton 'race baiters' and 'scam artists' with regularity and Edwards a 'shyster lawyer' at every opportunity. I have called Kucinich a nut and Paul a few decades past his sell by date." I would also add that JimV has called both Senator Clinton and Speaker Pelosi Hags! Raising the Bar meant we don't call each other names on this forum Freewolf. Public Figures "choose" to be in the public eye and therefore subject to public ridicule. Posters don't make that choice.

Besides, Dumbya and Dickhead are not exactly Foul, Vulgar names. Hell, you hear much worse than that on TV every single night of the week! So What's the problem? And, "If" Posters don't know who I am referring to....nough said.

[McGyver]

I doubt Hillary would ever let Obama even close to her administration. She hates him more than she hates any Republican. Additionally, I don't care how far people think the country has come, I would be willing to bet that with Hillary's background and years in Arkansas, that she wouldn't even let him use the same bathroom as her. I would be more than willing to bet that in the privacy around the kitchen table at the Clinton's house, (so to speak), that the n word has gotten quite a bit of use this past year.


Freewolf, now it's my turn to "strongly" disagree with what you believe. President and Mrs. Clinton have worked long and hard in the area of Civil Rights....much more so than any of your Republican Administration. And I hope you don't expect JimV to respond to your post above, because JimV does not respond to anyone's "Personal Opinions." And it's OBVIOUS that the above statement is your "Personal Opinion" based on ZERO FACTS??? JimV Hates it when you do that! :D

Here's what's REALLY going on:

From NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan and Domenico Montanaro
On Obama’s campaign plane, he answered questions about the “snub” moment from the State of the Union and Florida’s relevance, or lack there of, in this nominating process.

Obama said he was “surprised” about the photo and how his apparent turning away from Clinton was being characterized. “I was turning away because Claire [McCaskill] asked me a question, as Senator Kennedy was reaching for her [Clinton],” Obama said. “And senator Clinton and I have had very cordial relations on the floor and off the floor; I waved at her as we were coming into the Senate chamber before we walked over. I think there's a lot more tea leaf reading going on here than I think people are suggesting.” (I WOULD CALL IT "HATE-MONGERING.")

McCaskill was on the plane with Obama to back up his alibi, and she scolded the press for reading something into nothing. "It was not a snub," she emphatically declared. "It was one of those accidents. Frankly everyone's spoiling for a fight, (THEY CERTAINLY ARE!) which is the politics of old, you know this thing isn't the politics of old. Its about new. It's unfortunate that everyone is so anxious for there to be problem on a personal level and I gotta tell yah, its just not there."