White people's racism

[GUS]

There are African Americans,Mexican Americans,Asian Americans,Arab
Americans,Native Americans, etc....And then there are just -Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.You Call me 'White
boy,''Cracker,' 'Honkey,''Whitey,' 'Caveman,' ...And that's OK.
But when I call you Kike, Towel head,Camel Jockey,Beaner, Gook, or
Chink,...You call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you,So why are the
ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund.You have Hispanic History
Month.You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Asian History Month.You have Black History Month.You have
Cesar Chavez Day.You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.You have Yom Hashoah.You
have Kawanza.You have the NAACP.And you have BET.
If we had WET(White Entertainment Television)...We'd be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day...You would call us racists.
If we had White History Month...We'd be racists.If we had any
organization for only whites to 'advance' our lives,...We'd be racists.
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,A Black Chamber of Commerce,and
then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.Wonder who pays for that?
If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships.You
know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly-proclaimed black-only colleges in the USA ,yet
if there were 'White-only Colleges'...THAT would be a racist college.
In the Million-Man March,You believed that you were marching for your
race and rights.If we marched for our race and rights,...You would
call us racists.
You are proud to be black,brown, yellow and red and you're not afraid
to announce it. When we announce our white pride...You call us
racists.!
You rob us,Carjack us and shoot at us. When a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer who is running from the LAW and posing a threat to ALL of society...You call the cop a racist.
I am proud....But, you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists?

[Erika]

The other ethnicities have had to "overcome".

As O'conner said in the affirmative action case she ruled on, it will still be decades before affirmative action can be phased out.

[gooddoggy]

The other ethnicities have had to "overcome".

As O'conner said in the affirmative action case she ruled on, it will still be decades before affirmative action can be phased out.

Whites were not "given" the edge.

Whites of the past overcame...mightily!

We are the fortunate heirs of their sacrifice, courage, and intelligence!

Thank God for it!

Those who feel they have fared poorly should be grateful they did not fare worse.

[Erika]

How we treated the Indain natives here will always be a matter of shame. How we treated slaves will also be a shame on us forever,

As Condi said, America was born with a birth defect, slavery.

[gooddoggy]

How we treated the Indain natives here will always be a matter of shame. How we treated slaves will also be a shame on us forever,

As Condi said, America was born with a birth defect, slavery.


No, history forgives sins and moves forward.

But even so, most of the colonies were established fairly, some with the help and blessing of the Indians.

What was done later by the federal government was bad, but it doesn't reflect upon white people in general.

[Notus Lotus]

No, history forgives sins and moves forward.

But even so, most of the colonies were established fairly, some with the help and blessing of the Indians.

What was done later by the federal government was bad, but it doesn't reflect upon white people in general.

Wrong, Herr Gut Hund.

History does not forgive sins. Particularly the sin of genocide.

The ethnic cleansing by the federal government, which is, after all, We the People, does indeed reflect upon white people in general.

[Notus Lotus]

There are African Americans,Mexican Americans,Asian Americans,Arab
Americans,Native Americans, etc....And then there are just -Americans. But don't forget the Irish Americans or the German Americans or the Norwegian Americans...or don't they fit this scenario?
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.You Call me 'White
boy,''Cracker,' 'Honkey,''Whitey,' 'Caveman,' ...And that's OK. No it's not. Intelligent people understand that the class of people who say those sort of things are ignorant racists, no matter what color they are.
But when I call you Kike, Towel head,Camel Jockey,Beaner, Gook, or
Chink,...You call me a racist. So quit calling me names.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you,So why are the
ghettos the most dangerous places to live? Because the police are busy protecting Britnney and Lindsay from the paparazzi?You have the United Negro College Fund.You have Hispanic History
Month.You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Asian History Month.You have Black History Month.You have
Cesar Chavez Day.You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.You have Yom Hashoah.You
have Kawanza.You have the NAACP.And you have BET. We also have Thanksgiving and Christmas and Easter and Dead White President's birthdays and National Hot Dog Day. What's your point?
If we had WET(White Entertainment Television)...We'd be racists. Honey, it's ALL been white entertainment TV for the last 60 years. THAT was racist. Remember the SHOCK when Bill Cosby was cast in "I Spy"?If we had a White Pride Day...You would call us racists. No I wouldn't. I'd say the same thing I say to anyone celebrating their PROUD color...what the hell do you have to be proud of? You didn't do anything special to be born that way.
If we had White History Month...We'd be racists.If we had any
organization for only whites to 'advance' our lives,...We'd be racists. Redux: it was ALL white history, all the time for 200 years...and if you'd been persecuted, enslaved, and treated as less than dogs for 150 years, you might be in need of an organization to help advance your causes.We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,A Black Chamber of Commerce,and
then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.Wonder who pays for that? Um, the members of said Organizations?
If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships.You
know we'd be racists. No, we'd be levellling a playing field that was far too long hideously uneven.There are over 60 openly-proclaimed black-only colleges in the USA ,yet
if there were 'White-only Colleges'...THAT would be a racist college. YUP. And yet when I do a Google, I find colleges which are historically black, but none that exclude other races.In the Million-Man March,You believed that you were marching for your
race and rights.If we marched for our race and rights,...You would
call us racists. No, I would call you assholes, since you've had it your way since about 2 AD, and you don't have a danged thing to march about...or do you?You are proud to be black,brown, yellow and red and you're not afraid
to announce it. When we announce our white pride...You call us
racists.! That's because you are. See remark about being proud of something you have no right to be proud of.
You rob us,Carjack us and shoot at us. And you do the same to us...your point?When a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer who is running from the LAW and posing a threat to ALL of society...You call the cop a racist. Wrong. We call the cop a racist when he and 4 of his fellow officers beat up an unarmed black man.
I am proud....But, you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists? Whites aren't the only ones who can be racist. Who the hell wrote this drivel? Sounds like something Gooddoggy would write.


Gus, I'm frankly surprised, given the intelligent posts I've enjoyed from you in the past. I seem to recall getting this in an e-mail some time ago. Please tell me you didn't write it.:confused:

[GUS]

No, I did not write that garbage--just got it in an e-mail and thought the far right wing saltines amongst us might identify with its crap. OOooops, I forgot to say it was not of my making or thinking. Notus, your comments were excellent!

[Notus Lotus]

No, I did not write that garbage--just got it in an e-mail and thought the far right wing saltines amongst us might identify with its crap. OOooops, I forgot to say it was not of my making or thinking. Notus, your comments were excellent!


:o

'Doh!

I KNEW that couldn't be you!
:)

[gooddoggy]

Gus, I'm frankly surprised, given the intelligent posts I've enjoyed from you in the past. I seem to recall getting this in an e-mail some time ago. Please tell me you didn't write it.:confused:

Racism has only come to be condemned in the last 100 years or so.

Race is much of who and what we are. Not in totality, but it still features.

There is great power in race, posited there by the Creator.

I point again and again to the Irish. Race, more than religion or other cultural features, has been the bedrock of Irish nationalism.

When one looks at what the Irish have survived and how far they've come, its plain that race and racial consciousness are powerful weapons for survival success and prosperity in this sad world.

Can there be a down side to this? Yes, and I do actually apologize for recently going on a Hitler trip.

Its wrong to deprive people of their homes and property under any pretense except as a punitive damage for sound legal reasons. Its wrong to exile people and herd them into camps because of their race or religion unbless they are actually committing real, martial acts against the authorities. And its downright evil to kill people because of, among other reasons, their race.

But race comes from Nature, and Nature isn't wrong.

I love my race in a special way that I don't love others, does that make any sense?

[Notus Lotus]

Many things have only come to be condemned in recent history. What's your point?

I disagree with your assessment of the Irish and race. How do you figure race, rather than religion has been the bedrock of Irish nationalism? The IRA hasn't been fighting for white pride.

You occasionally inject a wee bit of sense into your posts, and it lulls me into thinking maybe you aren't a nutbag.

But then you go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like "race comes from Nature and Nature isn't wrong." Puh-lease.

I don't understand for the life of me why you love your "race" in a special way. Special, like Uncle Joe's special pony rides in the basement? Or special, like the "special" kids at school? Why does the color of your skin carry such importance for you? You do understand that under that skin, we are all the same flesh and blood and bone, right?

[gooddoggy]

Many things have only come to be condemned in recent history. What's your point?

I disagree with your assessment of the Irish and race. How do you figure race, rather than religion has been the bedrock of Irish nationalism? The IRA hasn't been fighting for white pride.

You occasionally inject a wee bit of sense into your posts, and it lulls me into thinking maybe you aren't a nutbag.

But then you go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like "race comes from Nature and Nature isn't wrong." Puh-lease.

I don't understand for the life of me why you love your "race" in a special way. Special, like Uncle Joe's special pony rides in the basement? Or special, like the "special" kids at school? Why does the color of your skin carry such importance for you? You do understand that under that skin, we are all the same flesh and blood and bone, right?

I am beginning studies on the IRA, Irish History, and the conflict in Northern Ireland. I'l come back to this.

Why do I love my race? Same reason you love your kids more than someone else's, your nation more than another, etc.

And we don't all have the same blood under our skin or we would all be the same color.

[Notus Lotus]

I am beginning studies on the IRA, Irish History, and the conflict in Northern Ireland. I'l come back to this.

Why do I love my race? Same reason you love your kids more than someone else's, your nation more than another, etc.

And we don't all have the same blood under our skin or we would all be the same color.


Save your energy, GD, I'm a few years ahead of you. I'd suggest beginning your study of the Irish with "How the Irish Saved Civilization" by Thomas Cahill.


Do get back to me when you realize that Irish is not a Race. Or is it the term "Black Irish" that has you confused?

[gooddoggy]

Save your energy, GD, I'm a few years ahead of you. I'd suggest beginning your study of the Irish with "How the Irish Saved Civilization" by Thomas Cahill.


Do get back to me when you realize that Irish is not a Race. Or is it the term "Black Irish" that has you confused?


I have read it. It is one of my favorite books.

Howbeit, the Irish do consider themselves a race.

The English have always considered them a race.

Google the phrase "The Irish Race".

[Notus Lotus]

I have read it. It is one of my favorite books.

Howbeit, the Irish do consider themselves a race.

The English have always considered them a race.

Google the phrase "The Irish Race".

They can consider themselves flying monkeys if they like. Doesn't make them flying monkeys.

The Irish Race google takes me to all kinds of Irish Racing sites, and one journal that discuss "race", with the authors careful to include race in quotes.
Would you have done the same, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Oh, and your comment that we don't have the same blood, or we'd all be the same color...honey, after working OR for 15 years, I can tell you, every person I ever assisted with had the same red blood, regardless of the melanin or lack thereof in their skin.

[gooddoggy]

They can consider themselves flying monkeys if they like. Doesn't make them flying monkeys.

The Irish Race google takes me to all kinds of Irish Racing sites, and one journal that discuss "race", with the authors careful to include race in quotes.
Would you have done the same, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Oh, and your comment that we don't have the same blood, or we'd all be the same color...honey, after working OR for 15 years, I can tell you, every person I ever assisted with had the same red blood, regardless of the melanin or lack thereof in their skin.


I can feel for all people.

I accompanied a Mexican aquaintance to the ER not long ago. It was scary as he was in alot of pain. I felt just as concerned and upset as I would for anyone in that predicament, I didn't not have feelings for him just because he was Mexican.

We all have a common humanity.

But part of that common humanity is the blessing of belonging to a people.

He belongs to a race and a culture and so do I.

Nothing wrong with that.

Its a real difference whether we wish to acknowledge it or not.

I think people should marry within their own race.

I might move back from statements I've made about Aryan blood carrying better genes, but I'l never move from being against miscegenation.

Its not to the point where'd I'd make an issue of it if my daughter married a non-Caucasion, not once I saw that it was done and to make it an issue would only hurt people.

I'd still love any grandchildren. No doubt poetic justice would overtake me and I'd end up facing my own attitudes from someone who thinks like me.

But its not what I would prefer.

And I have spent alot of years teaching this value to my kids in a non invasive way. I know the teaching has stuck as both of my kids have expressed to me that they would prefer to marry a Caucasion person, even if they don't feel strongly oposed to interrarcial marriage itself.

I really have been this way all my life. I don't regret it.

I mix socially with friends of many races so I don't feel its an issue.

I have encountered this value amongst most of them. Phillipino people have expressed the same thought to me, as have Mexicans and blacks. So its not a white thing.

I grew up in a family where one of my uncles was Hispanic and an aunt was Japanese.

I love both of them dearly, escpecially my uncle, who I look up to alot.

Funny thing--my grandpa was very racial against blacks and Mexicans. I imagine at first he didn't like his youngest daughter marrying a Mexcan.

However he came to love him and respect him because he was an honorable man.

Is, I should say.

Amd my grandpa actually shot a Mexican in the line of duty as a cop once. He would mentions this as though he were discussing taking down a feral dog.
But the guy was a store robber to and wielding a pistol.

Bu for all this, I still think as a rule we should marry within our race.