Or, we could finally admit that water isn't an individual property right, but a community good, and get rid of these ridiculous individual and corporate water rights.
You can't just build a dam anywhere. The West ran out of good dam sites by the 1960's. The Dept of the Interior catalogued and rated all the possible dam locations over a hundred years ago. Any dam built since the 1960's is third rate at best.
Congratulations Sara! The city is lucky to have an open space director who has a passion for preserving our precious foothills.
I think it is great that people are hunting this invasive species. There are just too many of them and obviously they are spreading everywhere. It makes sense to hunt them vs. our native morning dove where they exist, as they are larger providing more meat per bird. It will be difficult to get rid of them in communities as hunting wouldn't be allowed, but where they expand out into natural habitats and farmland to harvest as many of these birds as possible makes all the sense in the world. Yes they are docile like all doves but they just don't belong in our country as well as Australia and I suppose many other places internationally. In FL where I Live they are numerous. I too can't stand there constant cooing and their harsh call notes. I so prefer the Morning doves soft, mournful song.
Confucius say, "Girl who ride bicycle, peddle ass all over town."
The ignorance here is outstanding. This whole article is based on the fact that the men you saw spitting were doing it for no other reason than to spit. You have no way of knowing their reason for spitting, they could have a respitory infection, be smokers, or any number of things that makes them produce excess mucus. Swallowing mucus in these cases can cause more problems breathing and in some cases nausea and vomiting. To the commenter that thinks spitting and intelligence are connected, thanks for the good laugh. Your comment is a clear indication of your intelligence.
I think that we have too much government in our lives. To tell we we are trespassing on
public land is a prime example. I've sent an e-mail the the BLM as to how to apply foe a special use permit. I hope that we can get enough people involved that we can get this permit and take care of the hot springs our selves. Starting by closing the hot springs from 5 pm Friday till Sunrise Monday. Then open Monday through Friday Sunrise to Sunset. Do this for starters and maybe just maybe we can get rid of the people that are causing the problem. Lets work together to save the Skinny dipper hot springs. Thanks!
"Fischer said the legal reason for closing the springs is because it's unauthorized use of public lands—using them is considered trespass."
So apparently folks enjoying the geothermals is trespassing, but some guy in Nevada who hasn't paid any grazing fees, well that's derned government overreach (need I add that he's become quite wealthy raising cattle on BLM lands).
CatWalkins, of course it is seventh. In this way, Boise is like New York City. Many years ago, Seventh Street in NYC was rebaptized "Avenue of the Americas," with names and national symbols at the various cross streets. Boise has done the same thing in its own way. Seventh is Capitol Blvd, and it has symbols of its many counties along the way. Nobody in NYC refers to its street as Ave of the Americas. New Yorkers still call it Seventh Avenue. I, being a transplanted New Yorker ( in my own way) refuse to call it "Capitol Boulevard." For me, it is Seventh Street. Jesus, Lord, how else can I keep my bearings in a town where a crane is blocking Main Street.
Our highways have anti-litter signs everywhere. There is a fine for doing it. But we still have to have volunteers out to clean up the highways and dispose of litter. we are a senseless, indifferent society that needs reforming. One alternative is to post a 24/7 armed guard at the hot springs for awhile.
I guessed "seventh" :-(
I'm not upset in the least that BLM has had to take this regrettable, but necessary, action. It's the bums who've spoiled it for the rest of us, and the hand-wringing and largely meaningless response that "they'll just move to the next place and trash that" ignores the larger problem, which is the absence of effective self-policing by users of public lands. If fellow users tolerate drug use, drinking, and trashing the place, there's not much for a management agency to do except to declare a "time out" and admonish the childish ones among us to "go to your room until we tell you to come out."
I think I've met Ken! I am so bummed!
Just because the land is public doesn't mean you can do anything you want. It means it's ours, so you can't act like it's just yours. You can't just go around and say, ruin habitat. Some group needs to get the permit and then take steps to keep out knuckleheads. Problem solved.
I would like to see the BLM improve the area. Add out houses, groom the trail and impose a moderate use fee that directly funds the upkeep.
Let's work on it!
I agree people will move to the next hot springs after it is closed- continuing a domino effect. Slobs who leave needles lying around, drunks and stumblers and ignorant assaults take place on a daily basis.
But hell, Ive worked downtown and seen some gnarly events take place, and the same bars and hot spots are still in full swing.
Im a bit upset, it ruins it for the rest of us who have respect for trails, nature and hot springs.
Idaho keeps glamorizing Idaho...nationally.
We are pushing out the beauty that brought us here in the first place.
I also wonder about trespassing on public land. I am not sure that can be enforced if someone with enough money can be forthcoming to challenge the BLM in court. But, as stated, the crummy people will simply go somewhere else.
How exactly is it trespassing on PUBLIC land?
Payette Henry - An individual or group could apply for a permit and formally take on the maintenance and liability. Would have to move quickly though, decision is final in 3 weeks.
Now this place is closed, the people who abuse public lands will move on to the next pristine place and screw that up too.
The logical solution would instead be for the BLM to improve the site, offering outhouses and trails for day use and a fence to prevent nighttime use. Perhaps a reasonable use fee to offset costs could be implemented.
But no, the iron fist of bureaucracy considers public access to publicly owned lands trespassing, and the next hotspring to be discovered will pay the consequences.
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