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Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Very sad, to read the comments of apparent Idahoans who act like Californians. Idaho has certain laws (some of us respect the law and choose to live here for those reasons) and a public school or random administrator has ZERO right to try to change those laws based on their own feelings.

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Posted by idaho-land of personal responsibility on 08/26/2017 at 10:14 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Freethought: polio is not what we have been made to understand. Please do some research. Here's a start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQTFTq5Zc8…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDEqI2Qw3r…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxBJAubfY5…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB-2POcyIe…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DogxiXKa…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZz4YbZNxX…

There are simple explanations as to why infections diseases don't spread the way we've been taught. When there is open sewage running in the street, lack of electricity and modern sanitation, conditions go awry pretty fast. Just a scientific observation.

Scarlet and Typhoid Fever disappeared without any vaccines. Wonder how that happened?

http://whale.to/vaccines/decline1.html

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Posted by Raine Irving Saunders on 08/26/2017 at 9:08 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

The irony of a parent who undoubtedly elects for the per-child tax credit complaining about vaccination as a precondition to send her daughter to a public school is almost too much for my poor caffeine-deprived brain to handle.

If I read this correctly, the school is willing to educate your herd-immunity-compromising child so long as you take five minutes of your precious time to fill out the correct form. But that's not enough compromise for a true believer like yourself--if they're going to endanger students on your behalf, it's gotta be on your terms. God help us. Maybe if you'd payed a few minutes' attention in high school biology we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Ms. Saunders, vaccines may not be "100% safe and effective", but they're so nearly so as to make your statement meaningless. Seatbelts, condoms, and parachutes are also not "100% safe and effective", but they've got an excellent record of preventing injury, pregnancy, and death. We are within living memory of polio, smallpox, and pertussis killing millions of children. I wonder why that no longer happens...must have been prayer.

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Posted by freethought208 on 08/26/2017 at 8:53 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

No they are not the same person. Do some research before you post.

The schools should not be allowed to deny a student on these grounds. If the parents are complying to the state statute then the schools should have to accept it not make their own rules.

Fix the exemption form and remove the incriminating statements, align with the state statutes and we won't have this problem. Until it's fixed, we will have a problem Idaho. Parents will fight for their rights, our freedom, and our choice.

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Posted by JH0524 on 08/26/2017 at 8:26 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Such silliness. "You must fill out my form and only my form or your child can't be educated". When did our country get to such immature levels? I thought education was the paramount issue with a school.

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Posted by MrsBorah on 08/26/2017 at 2:09 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

I've seen that face before??

http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/mother-says-daughters-case-not-faith-healing/153012643

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Posted by DidTheyReadFromAScript? on 08/26/2017 at 1:53 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

God told me I'm special and can drive on either side of the road. However, the police have overruled God and said I must only drive within the law. I feel oppressed and discriminated against. Everyone please band together to help defeat this oppressive traffic law. (Joking of course but that pretty much sums up this vaccine in crowed schools argument too.) I'm wondering if they read from a script or cards during that video clip? Fake crying on cue too, oh my. Any man over age 30 or female over age 10 can see through that tactic.

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Posted by DidTheyReadFromAScript? on 08/26/2017 at 1:38 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Apparently the anti-vaccine crowd doesn't understand the concept of administrative law. In any case we really should prohibit all non-medical exemptions by statute, it's worked in California to get vaccination rates back above the level where herd immunity isn't compromised. Which is important as no vaccine is 100% effective so even vaccinated people can be harmed if there isn't sufficient herd immunity (note that even without 100% effectiveness thousands of people will be prevented from dying from disease for every one that has a serious side effect or allergic reaction from a vaccine.) Vaccines are like seatbelts im cars, every so often one ends up choking someone who doesn't fit quite right, but far more often they save lives from ever present and unavoidable dangers. You wear seatbelts right?

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Posted by Mike K on 08/26/2017 at 12:14 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Boise Weekly, I'm disappointed that you did not get the facts straight about Idaho law. This scenario is about obstruction of right to a public education without the threat of discrimination. Sara followed what Idaho Code allows and she was penalized. The school refuses to follow Idaho Code and enforces something that goes around the Code, generated by the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, which is not within any jurisdiction to make laws. This needs emphasis, and you failed to deliver that information.

Vaccines are not 100% safe or effective. Vaccine inserts provide a list of "Adverse Events" which can include chronic illness and death. Vaccine manufacturers have been afforded protection against lawsuits by the federal government since the inception of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) of 1986 (42 U.S.C. 300aa-1 to 300aa-34). Since that time, vaccine courts have paid out 3.4 billion dollars to injured families. Exemption forms are fraudulent and incomplete since they do not include this information. When there is a risk with any medical treatment, there should be a choice.

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Posted by Raine Irving Saunders on 08/25/2017 at 10:18 PM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Looks like your link is broken for Health Freedom Idaho. Health Freedom Idaho is committed to protecting YOUR freedom to choose and your children's access to education. This is a right that is being denied to more and more families. Here is an excerpt from the IDAPA rules published by the Health Department. Its clear that there are only 3 legal requirements to invoke a vaccine exemption; the child's name and birthday and a simple statement from the parent/guardian statement: "I am invoking my child's right to vaccine/immunization exemptions on religious or other grounds."

THE LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE A LIST OF VACCINES NOR AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF PARENTAL HARM TO THE CHILD DUE TO DISEASE. http://healthfreedomidaho.org/when-schools…

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Posted by Julie Truely on 08/25/2017 at 7:05 PM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Unless a doctor says the child has a special health condition that should preclude vaccination, the child should not be allowed in school. Many of these cases are well planned intentional points of conflict with larger goals of causing controversy for backing organizations.

I do not believe in forced vaccination, but it is okay if the choice to forgo vaccination results in loss of some privileges for the purpose of protecting the greater good. Many are harmed and even killed by vaccinations but not near as many as they save. If you want to live in a society you need to make some compromises. This is one of them. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Are this family's pets vaccinated? Someone should check.

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Posted by TuffCookies on 08/25/2017 at 5:09 PM

Re: “House Speaker Paul Ryan Met With Demonstration During Boise Visit

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/world/europe/germany-bans-far-left-antifa-website.html

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Posted by DoItHereToo on 08/25/2017 at 12:21 PM

Re: “House Speaker Paul Ryan Met With Demonstration During Boise Visit

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/22/alan-dershowitz-violent-antifa-movement-is-trying-/

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Posted by AlanSaid on 08/24/2017 at 10:38 AM

Re: “House Speaker Paul Ryan Met With Demonstration During Boise Visit

These people are morons who do not represent Idaho in any way. Go back to wherever you came from!

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Posted by Shoogi on 08/23/2017 at 3:58 PM

Re: “House Speaker Paul Ryan Met With Demonstration During Boise Visit

Please expand the story. Is this group associated with the leftist Antifa movement? Look deeper, it's a valid question.

Do they have access to schools? Are parents notified? Hate is hate whether it be right or left, so I really want to know more about this group and its leadership. Anyone standing on the street yelling at centrist congressional leaders should be carefully scrutinized for radical content before having contact with school kids.

Paul Ryan is Trumps biggest problem so not clear why shouting at him unless the intent was to get attention in the media.

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Posted by Good Questions on 08/23/2017 at 2:09 PM

Re: “House Speaker Paul Ryan Met With Demonstration During Boise Visit

Heard while walking by, "What am I supposed to say now?" BTW, it should be 'Dozen' of demonstrators.

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Posted by David Hanson on 08/22/2017 at 6:16 PM

Re: “House Speaker Paul Ryan Met With Demonstration During Boise Visit

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is considered a terror organization by one of out Arab allies. You be the judge.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/17/us-group-cair-added-to-terror-list-by-united-arab-emirates.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_American%E2%80%93Islamic_Relations

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Posted by OMGthatisscary on 08/22/2017 at 2:50 PM

Re: “August 22, 2017: What to Know

The US Occupation of Afghanistan is finally old enough to get caught drinking by its parents

Posted by GorillaMindthet on 08/22/2017 at 1:09 PM

Re: “August 22, 2017: What to Know

In the most obvious baldfaced lie of the speech, Trump said the new plan came after I studied Afghanistan in great detail and from every conceivable angle, which translates to, "Im telling you what the generals have decided to do, and by Thursday Ill have forgotten two thirds of it."

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Posted by Ruprecht da Republican on 08/22/2017 at 11:29 AM

Re: “Alley Trash-formation

Looking a Spanish and French news. Hope they make it truck proof.

Where will the trash dumpsters be kept?

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Posted by Being Real on 08/18/2017 at 4:37 PM


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