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Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Three things/ideas have caused the population of the world to exploded starting at the end of WW-II. 1) widespread antibiotic use, 2) widespread vaccinations, and 3) modern mechanized farming/food distribution. Hand of God nuclear weapons and the resulting long period of global peace also contributed. Look at a population chart to see the arc upward.

As for people demanding others to do the research, suggest you move beyond the YouTube channels selling vitamins and snake oils. Buy a membership to a research library where actual research papers are found. https://scholar.google.com/ is a good start and it is free. Be sure to read recent peer reviewed papers produced in western countries which have legitimate peer review processes. Access to these library search engines are available for free to people attending major universities.

Vaccines are net benefit by huge margin. No doubt they need improvement. No doubt unvaccinated people are putting others at risk. Diseases cross the globe on nonstop airliners. Uncontrolled immigration, Ebola brought to America a few years ago, and several measles outbreaks recently are great examples to how modern America is now exposed to pathogens which the dummies among us think are not a threat any longer.

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Posted by Where to look on 08/26/2017 at 8:05 PM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

This statement sums up the knowledge base of these idiots "Scarlet and Typhoid Fever disappeared without any vaccines. Wonder how that happened?"

I'll tell you how that happened you moron, scarlet is caused by group A strep, a bacteria, which we treat with common antibiotics. Typhoid was wiped out by vaccine.

I hope some power protects your children from you, you are thier worst enemy.

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Posted by Jon Dunn on 08/26/2017 at 7:47 PM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Anti-stupid people: anyone who cares to do the research can find any of this information out. All the latest research is available online. "Scientists" and "doctors" don't even know anything about vaccines other than that "vaccines prevent illness" and the CDC schedule. Many are admitting they don't learn about immunology, how the ingredients affect the human body, nor are there any studies on the safety of the synergistic effects of the vaccines that are given in multiple doses and that typically children receive multiple mult-dose vaccines in one day. The amount of required vaccines increases every year. If you are 30, 40 or 50 years old, there is no comparison to the amount of vaccines you received and a child of 10, 15 or even 18 years of age received. Do an online search for Dr. Toni Bark, M.D. and Suzanne Humphries, M.D. who can attest that in ther medical training they did not learn any of this information, that it wasn't until treating patients who were vaccine-injured over and over again and later education that they discovered this was what was happening to so many people.

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Posted by Raine Irving Saunders on 08/26/2017 at 4:42 PM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

The Idaho Code does not require a specific form to exempt from vaccinations (see Idaho Code exact verbiage here: https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/Title39/T39CH48/SECT39-4802/ )
Health and Welfare is not a legislative entity and therefore has zero ability to pass a law as to which form must be used. If it isn't a *law* it is not *illegal* to refuse to do it.

Those of you in the comments that wish law to be upheld MUST side with the mother in this case. She knows the law. West Ada apparently does not know the law and, as a result, is acting illegally in attempting to punish parents and students for breaking a law that does not exist.

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Posted by Lisa42 on 08/26/2017 at 3:33 PM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Ms. Saunders,

I stand corrected. The personal account of my uncle who contracted polio--then had to learn to walk again, lost years of schooling, and dealt with the aftereffects his whole life--not to mention the histories of the early twentieth century--certainly can't be trusted if there are YouTube videos to the contrary.

Jonas Salk must have been the victim of fake news.

I repeat: had the subject of this article spent even a few minutes listening (and comprehending) in biology class we wouldn't be having this discussion.

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Posted by freethought208 on 08/26/2017 at 1:23 PM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Idaho has all 3 vaccine exemptions: Philosophical, Religious and Medical. Pick one.

RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS
Religious freedom is an unalienable right that isn't granted by some flunky bureaucrat. It's in the Bill of Rights!

You don't have to let these nitwit bureaucrats know which religion you follow, nor its tenets. It's illegal. That's why it's not a question that can be asked on job applications and interviews. So how can doctors, school nurses, legislators, etc. think they have a right to that discussion. Once you declare it, that's itdiscussion over. Nothing to prove, nothing to question.

From the Federal EEOC: "...employers should avoid questions about an applicant's religious affiliation, such as place of worship, days of worship, and religious holidays and should not ask for references from religious leaders, e.g., minister, rabbi, priest, imam, or pastor."

https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/religion.cfm

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Posted by Walter Kryshak on 08/26/2017 at 12:28 PM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Raine Irving Saunders, In posts above you mention science as observed on YouTube. Are you a scientist? What are your credentials? Your education? Your scientific experience in vaccine and disease research?

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Posted by Anti-Stupid People on 08/26/2017 at 11:09 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Yes, people really are this selfish. No open sewers in Minneapolis last I checked.

http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-measles-outbreak-may-be-over/441683423/

(Sure looks and sounds the same, name is exact match)

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Posted by Anti-Stupid People on 08/26/2017 at 10:47 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Very sad, to read the comments of apparent Idahoans who act like Californians. Idaho has certain laws (some of us respect the law and choose to live here for those reasons) and a public school or random administrator has ZERO right to try to change those laws based on their own feelings.

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Posted by idaho-land of personal responsibility on 08/26/2017 at 10:14 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Freethought: polio is not what we have been made to understand. Please do some research. Here's a start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQTFTq5Zc8…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDEqI2Qw3r…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxBJAubfY5…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB-2POcyIe…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DogxiXKa…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZz4YbZNxX…

There are simple explanations as to why infections diseases don't spread the way we've been taught. When there is open sewage running in the street, lack of electricity and modern sanitation, conditions go awry pretty fast. Just a scientific observation.

Scarlet and Typhoid Fever disappeared without any vaccines. Wonder how that happened?

http://whale.to/vaccines/decline1.html

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Posted by Raine Irving Saunders on 08/26/2017 at 9:08 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

The irony of a parent who undoubtedly elects for the per-child tax credit complaining about vaccination as a precondition to send her daughter to a public school is almost too much for my poor caffeine-deprived brain to handle.

If I read this correctly, the school is willing to educate your herd-immunity-compromising child so long as you take five minutes of your precious time to fill out the correct form. But that's not enough compromise for a true believer like yourself--if they're going to endanger students on your behalf, it's gotta be on your terms. God help us. Maybe if you'd payed a few minutes' attention in high school biology we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Ms. Saunders, vaccines may not be "100% safe and effective", but they're so nearly so as to make your statement meaningless. Seatbelts, condoms, and parachutes are also not "100% safe and effective", but they've got an excellent record of preventing injury, pregnancy, and death. We are within living memory of polio, smallpox, and pertussis killing millions of children. I wonder why that no longer happens...must have been prayer.

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Posted by freethought208 on 08/26/2017 at 8:53 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

No they are not the same person. Do some research before you post.

The schools should not be allowed to deny a student on these grounds. If the parents are complying to the state statute then the schools should have to accept it not make their own rules.

Fix the exemption form and remove the incriminating statements, align with the state statutes and we won't have this problem. Until it's fixed, we will have a problem Idaho. Parents will fight for their rights, our freedom, and our choice.

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Posted by JH0524 on 08/26/2017 at 8:26 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Such silliness. "You must fill out my form and only my form or your child can't be educated". When did our country get to such immature levels? I thought education was the paramount issue with a school.

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Posted by MrsBorah on 08/26/2017 at 2:09 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

I've seen that face before??

http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/mother-says-daughters-case-not-faith-healing/153012643

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Posted by DidTheyReadFromAScript? on 08/26/2017 at 1:53 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

God told me I'm special and can drive on either side of the road. However, the police have overruled God and said I must only drive within the law. I feel oppressed and discriminated against. Everyone please band together to help defeat this oppressive traffic law. (Joking of course but that pretty much sums up this vaccine in crowed schools argument too.) I'm wondering if they read from a script or cards during that video clip? Fake crying on cue too, oh my. Any man over age 30 or female over age 10 can see through that tactic.

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Posted by DidTheyReadFromAScript? on 08/26/2017 at 1:38 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Apparently the anti-vaccine crowd doesn't understand the concept of administrative law. In any case we really should prohibit all non-medical exemptions by statute, it's worked in California to get vaccination rates back above the level where herd immunity isn't compromised. Which is important as no vaccine is 100% effective so even vaccinated people can be harmed if there isn't sufficient herd immunity (note that even without 100% effectiveness thousands of people will be prevented from dying from disease for every one that has a serious side effect or allergic reaction from a vaccine.) Vaccines are like seatbelts im cars, every so often one ends up choking someone who doesn't fit quite right, but far more often they save lives from ever present and unavoidable dangers. You wear seatbelts right?

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Posted by Mike K on 08/26/2017 at 12:14 AM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Boise Weekly, I'm disappointed that you did not get the facts straight about Idaho law. This scenario is about obstruction of right to a public education without the threat of discrimination. Sara followed what Idaho Code allows and she was penalized. The school refuses to follow Idaho Code and enforces something that goes around the Code, generated by the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, which is not within any jurisdiction to make laws. This needs emphasis, and you failed to deliver that information.

Vaccines are not 100% safe or effective. Vaccine inserts provide a list of "Adverse Events" which can include chronic illness and death. Vaccine manufacturers have been afforded protection against lawsuits by the federal government since the inception of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) of 1986 (42 U.S.C. 300aa-1 to 300aa-34). Since that time, vaccine courts have paid out 3.4 billion dollars to injured families. Exemption forms are fraudulent and incomplete since they do not include this information. When there is a risk with any medical treatment, there should be a choice.

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Posted by Raine Irving Saunders on 08/25/2017 at 10:18 PM

Re: “Can Police Prevent the Next Charlottesville?

It was allowed to get nasty... false flag event was needed to reintroduce race to the political debate. Talk to George Soros he if funding the hooddies and the Nazi idiots are very predictable backdrop. It turned out even better then Soros could have hoped for when the Nazi killed people with his car.

BTW: False Flag events have been used throughout history... it is not a new concept nor is it nutty thinking to suspect it happens. Look it up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/us/charlottesville-protest-police.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-regionion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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Posted by It was allowed on 08/25/2017 at 7:13 PM

Re: “Child Turned Away From West Ada School Over Vaccinations

Looks like your link is broken for Health Freedom Idaho. Health Freedom Idaho is committed to protecting YOUR freedom to choose and your children's access to education. This is a right that is being denied to more and more families. Here is an excerpt from the IDAPA rules published by the Health Department. Its clear that there are only 3 legal requirements to invoke a vaccine exemption; the child's name and birthday and a simple statement from the parent/guardian statement: "I am invoking my child's right to vaccine/immunization exemptions on religious or other grounds."

THE LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE A LIST OF VACCINES NOR AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF PARENTAL HARM TO THE CHILD DUE TO DISEASE. http://healthfreedomidaho.org/when-schools…

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Posted by Julie Truely on 08/25/2017 at 7:05 PM

Re: “One Hot Potato

It's all about divide and conquer, that is that goal. Neither pro nor con leaders care if he is correct. He is a useful catalyst for the political division needed to keep the middle class away from the truth. The middle class must never be allowed to discover the amazing fraud and waste within the government. On rare occasions such as the Texas hurricane the waste and fraud will be too big to hide. The media will run stories about it for a few days then return to the usual distractions.

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Posted by TuffCookies on 08/25/2017 at 5:21 PM


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