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Re: “MASSV Music Fest Finds its Footing

He left out the part where someone broke into Zach/k's place and stole his equipment after he died. (Whom of those closest to him should I consult on how to properly spell his name? Many of his close friends spell it differently. That's right... So close.) The author also left out the part that insight into the DP message board showed people going back and forth about who should get what.... and complaining when his equipment went to his family. These are the people who will try to pass off other's actions as deplorable whilst their own are deemed to be what is right based on how they say Zach/k felt about his family.
So for all the whiners out there complaining about the festival going on... which is still a mess but more organized than it was when this tragedy happened and all you guys were "in charge"... since you are such professionals with a consummate knowledge of the scene and the politics it takes to get one of these rolling... it should be no problem to get another festival going and stomp the hell out of this one. Right? I figured that as strong as your crew is/was... that should be no issue at all. Or is all the bravado and juice that you guys said you had... was that all a front?

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Posted by MASSV WHINERS on 07/13/2012 at 9:05 PM

Re: “MASSV Music Fest Finds its Footing

As one of Zach's closest friends and cofounder of Dark Psyence I can tell you that there are a lot of flaws with this article. After their deaths the festival was taken from the people that helped him with the label and turned over to a competing production company. This would have been the last thing that they would have wanted. They also told us that we could no longer use the Dark Psyence name which is particularly upsetting to me since we created the name together. So when my dear friends died their dream died with them due to the greed of others. This festival will go on in vain.

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Posted by Russell Holten on 07/13/2012 at 4:41 PM

Re: “MASSV Music Fest Finds its Footing

oh boy...i have read all the comments that have been posted and am seriously disgusted by all of you. Would you all really think that not having a festival would be Zach and CJ's opinion if things didnt go their way? This is the real world people and you need money to make things happen. In order to bring money you have to appease the masses. Please, at least the festival is still happening and it is due to the dreams of these two beautiful people. RESPECT THAT!

15 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by feelinthelove on 07/13/2012 at 1:22 PM

Re: “MASSV Music Fest Finds its Footing

This is typical writing by "The" Josh Gross (HIS title for himself). He talks to a couple of his buddies that support his Godcrotch Experiment, and only gets one side of the story. Did he talk to any of the "several people assisting Peterson"? I doubt it. Do some real work for once Josh. Not just another easy piece to meet a deadline. If you have any journalistic integrity, you'll actually talk to those people that were "assisting" Zacklander, and write a follow up piece about the truth.

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Posted by THEwhoever on 07/13/2012 at 2:21 AM

Re: “MASSV Music Fest Finds its Footing

Dude - You seriously have the cajones to use the name "WWZ&CJD"? What would they do? If they were here right now, they would be telling the investors and organizers that they took their vision, twisted it, and systematically destroyed relationships that took years to build. These "one or three collaborators" that you claim to know were treated like their opinions meant nothing, in the wake of a tragic loss. How would you feel if your best friends had just died, and while you are trying to pick up the pieces, you are told the pieces aren't yours to pick up? Unless of course you have money! There were threats of litigation, as well as physical harm to the "collaborators", and it was based on one thing, and only one thing. Money. When people that Zack and CJ had zero respect for, and would have NEVER allowed to have even the smallest say in their business dealings came out of the woodwork following their deaths, the ONLY consideration was money. How much can we make, and if we don't make money this year, how can we make sure that we make money next year? You are correct when you say that the event will most likely lose money. How could that have been prevented even without Zack and CJ around? By listening to, working with, and finding common ground with, the people who were closest to them. The EDM community in Boise did not start this. The community had no issue whatsoever with MASSV continuing on to fulfill Zack's dreams. Do you think that is what happened? While I try never to speak for a whole community, and I am obviously generalizing here (there will obviously be EDM fans from Boise who can't resist the urge to see GO or BA), I think I can honestly say without hesitation - What would Zack and CJ do? They would be sad, disappointed and angry. But not at those that loved them and just wanted MASSV done properly. They would reserve their head shaking for those that THINK they knew them, and instead trashed their dreams.

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Posted by Are You Kidding Me? on 07/13/2012 at 12:56 AM

Re: “MASSV Music Fest Finds its Footing

I don't buy into the self-righteous indignation fire that has been fanned by a few, and consumed a community. Yes, Zachary's death changed things, yes it was f#cking inconvenient for all of us who loved him and CJ. Zack wasn't the money behind the event, and the investor(s) made hard decisions after his passing. In the words of Kurt Vonnegut: So it goes.

That anyone who loved Zack & CJ would cry so hard about money (that will probably be lost on this first MASSV event) is the mark of jealousy of perhaps an individual or two that imagine they are going to miss out on some eggs that haven't even hatched yet. Excuse me? Is your name Zack or CJ peterson? No? That's what I thought, so STFU.

I'm going to have to side with Spock on this one. Yes, the fictional character from Star Trek, who believed that the good of the majority (The music scene in Idaho—terribly undernourished and just now catching a glimmer of hope after Treefort) is more important than the individual (the one or three collaborators with Dark Psyence who tagged after Zack and freely accepted CJ's monetary investments in Dark Psyence).

I personally have recorded in my memory Zack and CJ's immortal attitude of, "F#ck it. Let's have fun and shoot for the stars!"

For those who don't believe in that dream, I am truly sorry.

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Posted by WWZ&CJD on 07/12/2012 at 9:30 PM

Re: “MASSV Music Fest Finds its Footing

If you ask around, most of the people who knew Zack and CJ... their close friends... will not be attending MASSV. This is because those of us who knew them understood the vision. Sure, I would LOVE to see Beats Antique and Ghostland Observatory, but refuse to put a single dollar into the pockets of those who are undeserving. This whole thing, afterall, is all about money. Zack and CJ were HUGE parts of the community they were a part of, and are missed dearly.

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Posted by Dontbuythelie on 07/12/2012 at 8:30 PM

Re: “MASSV Music Fest Finds its Footing

If BW wanted to get the real story on MASSV, they would actually talk to the people in the Boise EDM scene. Then, they would find that what really happened in the wake of Zack and CJ's deaths is beyond slimy. Zack's family DID tell him he was crazy. Because they couldn't care less about the work he was doing. Colleen didn't read his email at first? That's because anybody who knew Zack knew what he thought about his sister. And it wasn't good. The whole sentiment that this festival is continuing on "in their memory" is a joke. The idea in Zack's mind was an EDM festival. Not what MASSV has become. Everything he worked for was hijacked from the people that truly knew him and were helping him achieve his dream. And they did it for money. Threats, disrespect, and just plain old greed that will never come to light, were their tools. But let's just pretend that this is a good thing for Idaho. The actions of a few have fractured an entire community. And if BW would do their research, they would find a litany of The Peterson's friends that are simply disgusted with the whole thing.

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Posted by missingzackandcj on 07/12/2012 at 12:24 PM

Re: “MASSV Music Fest Finds its Footing

Awesome article. Can't wait for MASSV!

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Posted by StephenandKathy Mucher on 07/12/2012 at 8:25 AM

Re: “MASSV Music Fest Finds its Footing

All I have say is you have this story completely wrong. Good luck to Zack and CJs families, hope this works out for you.

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Posted by misrepresented on 07/11/2012 at 1:18 PM

Re: “Don't Listen Here

I had to follow up with this after some time had passed.

By writing 150 words Joss Gross went viral around the internet - and he did so in a way that generated a very large amount of praise as well as negative critisism - That is awesome. Most journalists will never achieve this. While this isn't a career maker by any means, it's certainly a boon. All of this happened because he humourly, and cleaverly, expressed his opinion about a relatively trivial subject which created strongly polarized opinions.

Everyone has an opinion about a band. Few have their opinion go virtal.

Regardless of my opinion on Nickleback, I apreciate this piece. It's truly a work of art.

I eagerly look forward to more writing from Josh Gross. :-)

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Posted by SinisterBrain on 07/09/2012 at 7:04 PM

Re: “The Ravenna Colt, Slight Spell

This is a pretty bad review...

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Posted by okcomputer on 07/07/2012 at 3:27 PM

Re: “Don't Listen Here

Wow, Josh Gross, you're a moron. You've had absolutely no success whatsoever. You are a hack that has to put stories in a flyer sized newspaper. It's amazing that nobody's like you have the audacity to criticize successful, creative people such as Nickelback, when you have absolutely nothing going for you. When you make dumb comments like you have then you are not only speaking to Nickelback but also to the millions and millions of fans they have worldwide. You are an idiot and you will continue to sit behind your desk smoking 2 packs of cigs per day, shaving every 3rd day and continuing to be a nobody that will never do anything significant in your life because you lack the brains, creativity, or talent to do anything.

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Posted by huge fan on 07/05/2012 at 3:52 PM

Re: “Esthetic Evolution Music and Art Festival

Sounds lame.

1 like, 1 dislike
Posted by Merpster on 06/27/2012 at 11:18 PM

Re: “Meatloaf Plans to Do Something He'll Regret in Boise

Meatloaf is certainly self-aware...whoever that "self" may be.

Posted by John E. Bredehoft on 06/27/2012 at 12:55 PM

Re: “Wilco is Not a Country Band

Nice article, but two points of clarification:

Uncle Tupelo was based in Belleville, Illinois. That's in the southern part of the state, near St. Louis, not in the Chicago area. (Tweedy moved to Chicago after UT called it quits.)

Wilcobase.com is a database of all Wilco concerts. Viachicago.org is the online fan community for Wilco fans.

4 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by JC on 06/26/2012 at 7:46 PM

Re: “Don't Listen Here

a guy did something similar in Little Rock, I believe for the same band, and actually lost his job because of it. The venue had been advertising with the weekly newspaper for years and decided to pull all advertising from future papers. whoops.

1 like, 1 dislike
Posted by t on 06/21/2012 at 2:41 PM

Re: “Don't Listen Here

The First Amendment allows you and myself to appreciate all comments whether we agree or not. Its journalism and its subjective. Whether its Boise, LA, Seattle, NY, I dont care; the fact is, if you dont like the opinion, ignore it. Dont like Jerry Springer? Turn the channel. Dont like something? Change the fucking channel. Its an opinion, we all have them.

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Posted by Polly on 06/14/2012 at 3:18 PM

Re: “Don't Listen Here

Just have to say.... liking the band or not.... the whole show was pretty awesome. One of the best I've seen in a while. Nickleback included. Four bands for $45 isn't a bad price.... infact, where can you go get entertained for FIVE hours for that cheap?! Oh... and having Gavin Rossdale run around IN the croud, touching people?! WEELLLLLLL worth the money!!!!! Not a fan of your article. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I do respect that... but the next time you want to bag on something/someone... try to have some class about it.

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Posted by Jamie Jones on 06/14/2012 at 3:12 PM

Re: “Don't Listen Here

To all of you that are here to defend the Nickelbackers, I hate to give this any attention but hey, I got 5 mins to kill, let me say this:

Nickelback lyrics sound like something a 16 year old would write. They are the kind of lyrics that SHOULD have been written by a 16 year old, and not just because they suggest having sex with minors but also just because they are simply unoriginal and obviously written with a young audience in mind.

Example:
Animals
I'm driving past your house while you were sneaking out
I got the car door opened up so you can jump in on the run
Your mom don't know that you were missing
She'd be pissed if she could see the parts of you that I've been kissing

Chad Kroeger was Born November 15, 1974 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Kroeger
The song was released November 8, 2005 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_%28Ni…

...which makes him 31 when the song was released. Seriously, (probably 30 when he wrote it as this was a song from their 5th studio record which means it was probably new material) should a 30+ year old man be singing about having sex with a teenager who snuck out of her mom’s house?
Please remember that this is just an example, there are many more. Feel free to check it out yourselves.

1 like, 2 dislikes
Posted by Badassderson on 06/13/2012 at 11:29 AM


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