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Re: “A Star Is Born ... Or Was He Manufactured?

Paranoid much? The link was always there to the Lefsetz Letter. It's an email newsletter and the archive is dated later than is the letter to subscribers. The content is the same. Of course since then it's been documented that Madonna's manager Guy Oseary has been behind Greyson Chance since before the Ellen show. And the Ellen show was all arranged prior to any significant video viewership. Doesn't make anyone bad or evil. It's just the way business is done.

Posted by PlainTs on 05/20/2010 at 11:38 PM

Re: “A Star Is Born ... Or Was He Manufactured?

From the Lefsetz Letter (posted earlier, but it seems like you may have missed it):

"From: Jay Fank
Subject: RE: Greyson Chance A Fake?

Didn't we already have this conversation in Toronto around Chris Brown's wedding video and Sam Adams? It's documented that there was less than 50,000 views of the video before AOL and Yahoo! did features within hours of each other on the same day. And their featuring occurred after

April 28th - Posted video
May 10th - Maybe 30,000 views at best...hardly an "internet sensation" for 2 weeks of posting
May 11th - Booked on Ellen, articles on AOL ('he's a phenom') and Yahoo! ('talents being celebrated on a national scale')
May 12th - Front page of Yahoo!
May 13th - Ellen performance

This is a bit too obvious that this doesn't feel natural. Now, who did the pushing is anyone's guess. Could it be 'management'? Could it be 'the label'? Or could it be a daytime TV show needing a stunt for ratings in sweeps? And a quick/easy/cute way to get on the front page of Yahoo!?

It doesn't make any of it wrong if people like it. But let's just be honest about what it likely is."

Posted by PlainTs on 05/19/2010 at 12:53 PM

Re: “A Star Is Born ... Or Was He Manufactured?

On the afternoon of May 11 Yahoo! Music reported: "As of this writing, the video has gotten more than 36,000 views so far, and he's even been invited to perform on The Ellen DeGeneres Show" (for a May 13 interview and on-air performance).

So - at the time it was publicly announced Ellen had booked Greyson, there were only 36,000 views. And, obviously, when she did book him - there were even less than that. Still, taking the higher figure, that's a lot less than 2 million!

As the one writer pointed out, just be honest about what this is.

Professionals at least two different marketing groups have acknowledged their roles. It's not organic when it's orchestrated. And orchestrated is not the same thing as conspiracy. It's just the way they do things in this business.

Posted by PlainTs on 05/19/2010 at 9:18 AM

Re: “A Star Is Born ... Or Was He Manufactured?

well, icqub49, it's not hard to guess what you do for a living! from another Lefsetz letter of today:

"From: Jay Fank
Subject: RE: Greyson Chance A Fake?

Didn't we already have this conversation in Toronto around Chris Brown's wedding video and Sam Adams? It's documented that there was less than 50,000 views of the video before AOL and Yahoo! did features within hours of each other on the same day. And their featuring occurred after

April 28th - Posted video
May 10th - Maybe 30,000 views at best...hardly an "internet sensation" for 2 weeks of posting
May 11th - Booked on Ellen, articles on AOL ('he's a phenom') and Yahoo! ('talents being celebrated on a national scale')
May 12th - Front page of Yahoo!
May 13th - Ellen performance

This is a bit too obvious that this doesn't feel natural. Now, who did the pushing is anyone's guess. Could it be 'management'? Could it be 'the label'? Or could it be a daytime TV show needing a stunt for ratings in sweeps? And a quick/easy/cute way to get on the front page of Yahoo!?

It doesn't make any of it wrong if people like it. But let's just be honest about what it likely is."

Posted by PlainTs on 05/19/2010 at 1:01 AM

Re: “A Star Is Born ... Or Was He Manufactured?

Whatever the tech aspects of the video, the set-up was clearly orchestrated. The vid had very few views for two weeks. Meanwhile, behind the scenes Ellen was setting up a booking, flying Greyson's Mom and sister to California with him, and the record label was in motion. Then the so-called “viral sensation” was created. Rig job all the way. The kid is the kernel of truth. It's not a conspiracy. Just the music biz. As usual.

Posted by PlainTs on 05/18/2010 at 10:19 PM

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