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Re: “Suckered Again

Good article. I have posted it elsewhere, and engaged as per below: "Ted Rall's claim, that "Depleted uranium bombs are still being dropped on Afghan villages." has not been substantiated by me. I take the substance of the Ted Rall article (Abandonment of vets is a military tradition) figuratively, with respect to his statement that "Depleted uranium bombs are still being dropped on Afghan villages"". If it is not happening, there is nothing to say it couldn't. For me, the onus lies with the "Coalition of the Willing" (COW) to convince me, with adequate openness and fact, that it is not. The deployment of uranium weapons, as anti-tank shells and as aircraft ammunition, means that wherever COW forces are engaged, there is the likelihood that there will be radioactive remnants of war. I am satisfied that radioactive combat sites and remnants are a fact, not an inference based on a possibility. There is ongoing debate as to whether there are "depleted uranium bombs" - bunker busters of some sort. I have no regrets about arguing that the onus lies on one or more governments in the COW to convince us, beyond a reasonable doubt, that no such weapons exist, that no such weapons have been deployed. I can't eliminate the above possibility to my satisfaction. And I don't believe that governments and insurgent groups engaging in armed combat merit the benefit of the doubt, beyond restraints established by the Geneva Convention and similar sets of rules designed to protect civilians and individual armed combatants. We are not dealing here with individual people with a right to justice. Corporate bodies have no rights, although it seems they have plenty of privileges. At the end of WWII, Allied troops walked in to the Arbeitslagers of the National Socialist war effort. They were able to confirm firsthand what had been limited, up till then to oft-denied rumours. That historical fact is not the only reason for publicising "unproved" information. There is more, from my point of view, than a just moral imperative to apply a precautionary principal. We now have radioactive incinerators, shot from guns and maybe dropped or launched from planes. And we are all downwind, breathing the smoke of another war machine. Ted Rall's article makes clear that, whatever the evidence that "Depleted uranium bombs are still being dropped on Afghan villages", ordinary soldiers and ordinary non-combatants are left to suffer the mess and deal with it, without much help from the governments which sent them into armed conflict, or placed them in harms way. Best wishes (In response to an offline:) "I am interested in the claim in the article below that you posted with DU-Watch, that "Depleted uranium bombs are still being dropped on Afghan villages." The author has not identified the source. Can you provide details of any properly referenced publications reporting documentary or independently verified physical evidence that such bombs have been used by the US or its allies in Afghanistan? I would like to know whether this claim has been substantiated." ****************************

Posted by Robert Rands on 03/22/2007 at 11:23 AM

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