December 22, 2004 

Idaho city responds

This letter is in response to Bill Cope's article "Up Into Uglier" (BW, Dec. 8) Yes, Mr. Cope, you are mean and you did offend. Yes, we are fiercely independent, individualistic nonconformists, and we like it that way. But we are also decent, hardworking, loving, caring folks. Not "slovenly dogs" and "lazy monkeys." While many of us agree with you--in part--that some places need some sprucing up, we are not very happy about you trashing our entire town. Even while paying us a minor compliment you still stab us in the back with a snide remark. I noticed that you failed to mention the multitude of wonderful historic buildings, the many nice little homes, the peace and quiet and the friendliness of our people. We live up here to escape the noise, crime, crowded conditions and that brown haze you so quaintly refer to as "inversion" and "fog" (it's real name is pollution). You think our town is ugly and we think yours is ugly. While many folks here are FORCED to commute to the valley daily for work, those of us who don't have to go avoid doing so for weeks and even months. We thoroughly enjoy our pine-scented (clean) air, the space between neighbors, relative security and the slow pace.

I am a transplant who left a large city for the very reasons stated above. You could not pay me to live elsewhere. I love this town and my neighbors. Native or not, I will defend my town in writing or otherwise 'til the day I die. Another Idaho City reader said you really shouldn't piss off 450 folks with guns. Another thinks you should be tarred and feathered. Many others think you can keep your uplifted nose down in the valley. We don't need negative, narrow-minded folks like you here. You looked at our town with blinders on. You focused on the few sore spots (which every town has) and completely missed out on the real beauty here. We are delighted that Eli enjoyed his visit despite his glass-is-half-empty companion.

--Lisa Martinez,

Idaho City

another resident responds

Holy crap! I'm not the only one who thinks areas in Idaho City look like an overturned dumpster. That's a relief, as being lulled into complacency by threats doesn't change the landscape. If you are an Idaho City merchant griping about the lack of cash flow in town and wondering if Idaho City is actually going to end up an honest-to-goodness ghost town, quit helping it commit suicide.

We do have ordinances, (though rarely enforced), which could use some nudging from the Chamber of Commerce (though rarely effective) or neighborhood petitions (though rarely read by city hall). Or we could get out of town before the rednecks catch us trying to make improvements. Visitors come to Idaho City to take in a bit of Idaho's history or enjoy the scenery but hurry on up or down the highway to find more desirable stops. A few tourists will be back for some of our events throughout the year, yet they will round 'em up and head 'em out with a lasting impression of what Idaho City should be (though it isn't).

­--Helen Beoington, Idaho City


Erin Ryan's article about Goths (BW, "Blood Rites, Brocade and Bauhaus," Dec. 8) was so totally off base about where it came from. She needed to do some more research. Goths started out in the early 80s maybe late 70s but it wasn't called that then. It was called cyberpunk. Maybe she should look into it. It didn't start out with Marilyn Manson or any of the other crap she makes reference to. It started out as ... hell, I don't know what it started out as. But it came from some literature written by a couple of guys named Bruce Sterling and William Gibson. Maybe you ought to read their books. The whole Goth thing came directly from cyberpunk. It started with the cyberpunks, then there was The Cure, and then we got Goth as we know it today. All the references you gave as to where it came from are total crap. Thank you very much.


voice mail,

Dec. 10, 11:15 p.m.

Editor's note: You're all wrong. The original inspiration for the Goths movement was the Visigoth barbarians that overran Rome during the 4th and 5th Century A.D. They were fond of wearing corsets and listening to Sisters of Mercy.


I really enjoyed reading your Juggernaut article. (BW, "Dawn of a Juggernaut," Dec. 15) Since your readership is not likely well-connected to either college football or Boise State (as you mentioned in your article), I thought it was well written, and apropos. I'm so pleased to see the greater part of the community coming around to supporting Bronco football.

As a big-time follower of Bronco football, and one who spends far too much daily time perusing the internet reading up on all things Bronco, I was surprised when I read in your article references to Regis Philbin, George Pataki, and Robert Pollard (of whom I legally own a half-dozen MP3s in the form of Guided by Voices) and their reference to the "orange and big blue".

Keep up the good work.

--Micah Cranney

awww, shucks

In my estimation you have written the finest article I have ever read on the Broncos and I have read a lot of them. Great subject matter, but your writing was just as great.

--Alan Peterson,


Ticket amnesty

I'm calling about the parking Amnesty that is happening in Boise on Saturday. I think it is wrong. I think it undermines the criminal justice system to take church money and pay off someone's parking tickets. I think it's money not very well spent by the churches and if they have that much money they should feed the poor.


voice mail,

Dec. 14, 1:41 p.m.


On page 17 of the Gift guide last week, we mentioned that recipients of gift certificates to Intentions Custom Perfumery (750 Warm Springs Ave., 871-1233) can "go in at leisure for an interview ..." We used such verbiage to express the relaxing atmosphere and pampering tone of the experience but later realized the confusion it might cause. Intentions is about leisure, but only by appointment. So if you're planning to partake of this lovely gift idea, make sure to call and set up a meeting time first.


The staff of Boise Weekly wishes all of our readers a merry Christmas, Chanukah, Kwanzaa or winter solstice. While 2004 has been great, 2005 will be even better.

Our offices will be closed December 24 through December 31. Many employees will be checking e-mail and voice mail during this time. The December 29th issue will be published on schedule.

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