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Re: “Protofascism Comes

Vossjck,
The article, I believe, is saying that the party has some strong currents of racism and that some of the rise of the tea party is eerily similar to that of fascism. I have many personal beliefs that coincide with many political parties from left to right myself, but that doesn't mean we're beholden to every facet of those ideological structures.

As a side note, I agree with the things you're against.

Posted by Goatboy on 07/29/2010 at 11:16 AM

Re: “Protofascism Comes

Boy... after reading some of these comments, you'd think as a white male I'm totally kept down by the man and have lost all my rights (and Kramer never said that... he apologized for his outburst actually).

A message to my fellow white middle class Americans: Quit bemoaning how hard your life is and go experience real hardship. No, stop right there... you think you've experienced it because something bad has happened to you, maybe even something horrible. That's not hardship. That's life. So stop. You're whiny and make us all look childish.

P.S. Talking about race doesn't mean you're playing a "race card."

P.P.S. I'm sick of people taking a logic or philosophy course and thinking they're experts on logical fallacies. Straw man? Come on dude.

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Posted by Goatboy on 07/29/2010 at 10:53 AM

Re: “Anti-BP Protest Kicks Off From Ann Morrison

I saw these folks on my way to work. I thought they were headed to a protest rally... not that they WERE the protest rally.

Posted by Goatboy on 07/29/2010 at 10:30 AM

Re: “Confession No. 3: I Love Foie Gras

Dude, really? Killing and torture aren’t even close to the same thing.
It’s tough to comment on this because inevitably there will be those who try to lump any response I give into either a clueless PETA loving animal activist, or a cruel pragmatist who doesn’t give a scrap for anything but his own needs.
So I’ll try to stick to the thought process. In that vein, I’m not sure I can agree with the "so what" argument. I grew up on a farm with a few cattle, ate steak last night, drink milk, and have both a neutered and spayed dog. I recognize people use animals all the time (and in ways lots of folks might not think about), and recognize that there is hypocrisy in a lot of animal activism. But killing isn’t the same as torture, so suggesting anyone who hates cruelty should stop eating animals is simple minded.
I buy steak from local butchers and farms where they eat grass and live well until they are killed. Neutering anesthetized dogs prevents thousands of potential puppies from starving to death. My family’s eggs come from chickens that get to move around all day and aren’t stuffed in cages or stuffed with steroids. My milk comes from Idaho cows that aren't propped up with a steady stream of antibiotic cocktails. The list goes on and on, but I try to be practical about it too. Try finding out where the leather came from for a particular pair of shoes… it ain’t easy and there aren’t a lot of local shoe manufacturing options.
I don't claim to be perfect (not even close), but when presented with choices that minimize cruelty, I think the "so what" mentality is frankly a little lame. Actually that response is at best lazy, and at worst stupid, regardless of what the issue is. As a chef, perhaps you can make a legitimate argument for meeting consumer demand. I don't know how essential foi gras is to your clients, but there’s usually more to someone’s motivations than what we see on the surface and there may be some underlying logical reason to support your stance on foie gras. That said, the best you gave us was, “who cares?”
The point is to make an effort. I attempt to do this with my own food. And I mean a real effort, which I try to keep devoid of pretense and judgment (although that’s an effort in itself sometimes). We all know it’s important to try to do what is right, but I think there’s more to this than just thinking about our own acts. We should not let apathy from others (especially the promotion of being apathetic) go without calling it out. Hence my comment.

I guess the simple counter argument is again, “who cares?”
I'm just one guy.

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Posted by Goatboy on 07/28/2010 at 11:23 AM

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